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RR-EVO



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6hp26 bang downshift when coming to a stop in town 2-1

It does it sometimes when car is cold.

Especially during the first miles in the morning in the city coming to a stop or a redlight.

Transmission goes bang when stopping the car if i stop it too fast. If i stop progressively, it does the downshift with ease.

Has been flushed once using a full kit bought at ZF directly (oil pan and oil).

Car is 4.2 supercharged.

Any advice appreciated.

Post #384190 28th Apr 2016 2:23am
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ebajema



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This is a known problem with your era gearbox, same with Jags. If I remember correctly (but feel free to check with RRPhil) it was a software update. So you could check with Gap Diagnostics whether the IID tool can update that software. I know the Faultmate can (since I have one and did do various software upgrades with it, including the gearbox).

As far as I know it is not hardware related like the 3-4 shift issues.

Instead of IID/Faultmate DIY you could go to a dealer and pay them for updating all your ECUs as well of course. No idea what they would charge you but I guess that going the IID route will probably be cheaper Smile MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Post #384193 28th Apr 2016 3:31am
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Dieterf



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Same problem, 2007 SC
Had the transmission fully flushed recently by ZF themselves, they clear the adaptions, but cannot update the actual mapping, that is a LR thing.

I am in discussions with them, there was a service bulletin issued on the topic, will try and attach.


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Post #384203 28th Apr 2016 7:24am
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northernmonkeyjones



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Clearing the adaptations is a risky thing, if the box has covered quite a few miles then there will be a degree of wear so it could actually make the box worse, as a few have found. There is a software update available from Land Rover, and this along with an oil change can help if not totally eliminate it.

If it doesn't then you may have a worn solenoid which will need the mechatronic unit removing. It can be done DIY, but it's not really easy as they will need to be tested to find which is worn. It depends on the box milage. They are generally robust and the software update and oils/filter, would be my first port of call, and changing the oil is good practice in any case though depends on how long since you last swapped it.

If you did a simple oil swap, then you don't swap all the oil in the box as he oil in the tc and cooler remain, so changing just the oil avail will dilute the old oil further!

Have a search there a quite a few threads on the 6hp26, including one by ebajema on his SC. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Post #384205 28th Apr 2016 7:40am
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kezbo1981



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Yes you can update the gearbox software on the 4.2SC using the IID tool. I did it on mine a few weeks ago, nice an easy.

Post #384208 28th Apr 2016 7:47am
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Dieterf



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OOI: is there a version number, so one knows which one is "old" and which is "new"

Am i right in assuming that adaptions update itself on-goingly in any event?
That is, a clearing of old might be a sudden overwrite, but during usage the adaptions " adapt themselves' in any event?

Another point, possibly relevant, the SC has the Magna Steyr xfer, which has an electronically controlled multi clutch torque lockup . There have been reports that that units attachment clip breaks, causing the unit fork to float, which allows torque lock up and would give drive train thump.
So, does the gearbox thump, accidentally activate the lock up, excessabating the thump, into a thump thump Smile

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ije44



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ebajema,

Just out of interest what 3-4th gear problems are you referring to mate.

Thanks,

Ian

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Dieterf



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Dieterf wrote:
Same problem, 2007 SC
Had the transmission fully flushed recently by ZF themselves, they clear the adaptions, but cannot update the actual mapping, that is a LR thing.

I am in discussions with them, there was a service bulletin issued on the topic, will try and attach.


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For those interested; I took the FFRR to the agents, explained the story and asked if they would hook it up.
The kind foreman obliged, (No Charge) came back with an upgraded vehicle, the relevant codes are as follows(scan below)

I've only done 60 odd km's, but smooth as silk, so happy Thumbs Up

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ebajema



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ije44 wrote:
ebajema,

Just out of interest what 3-4th gear problems are you referring to mate.

Thanks,

Ian


Hey Ian, please have a look at this post, it's a bit long but does tell you the history of the issue : http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic17348....ing+rrphil MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Post #384828 2nd May 2016 7:07am
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ije44



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Will do, Thanks ebajema. Thumbs Up

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RR-EVO



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Many thanks for those infos and TSB. I'll go to the dealership to have it upgrade

Post #385363 5th May 2016 1:42pm
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