Hi all,

Whilst gathering parts for this year's service, I found 10 litres of Mannol 5W-30 for 48EUR delivered. Per the picture below, it states specifically for Jaguar/Land Rover STJLR.03.5005 - WSS-M2C934-A A/B, code number ´7909´

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Needs to be ACEA C1 (Low Ash) / WSS-M2C934-B 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

ok, cool - I´ll stick that in the next two oil changes for the MX-5 then.

On order now, 2 x 5 ltr spec C1 Jaguar/Land Rover STJLR.03.5005 - WSS-M2C934B.

47 EUR delivered, which is good.

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304685626380?mk...media=COPY

this is what i have been using in my two. Did check with them and it's what they came back with.. 2008 TDv8 Vogue in Java black x2
2000 P38 They aren't all bad!
1996 D1 3.9 es
1996 Volvo 850 GLT

I always use Smith & Allan

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254938667441

John-suusex wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304685626380?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UtC3VvnORl6&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=kq0hfMU_QgC&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

this is what i have been using in my two. Did check with them and it's what they came back with..

General wrote:

I always use Smith & Allan

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254938667441

Not 20k miles since the last oil change I hope 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Is that what I said?

Nope. 2012 (L322) 4.4TDV8 Vogue SE, RSE, Fuji White over Arabica.
Previous V8s: BMW 645Ci, P38 4.6, P38 4.0, Merc CL500
Previous others: Honda x1, Volvo x7, Rover x6, BMW x6, Ford x1, Mercedes x2, Skoda x3, VW x2, Renault x2, Citroen x1, Mazda x3, Nissan x1, Audi x3, Kia x1, Fiat x4, Subaru x3, Austin x2, Triumph x2, Jeep x2, Hyundai x2, Lexus x1, Mitsubishi x1, Saab x2... and some others I've forgotten!

Sorry for suggesting it and not putting a in it. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Hi,

I have used Mannol and Smith & Allan products for a number of years and been happy with both,

wait to see what they reply then decide see if they state it still meets the WSS spec

TDV8_Tommy wrote:

Hi all,

Whilst gathering parts for this year's service, I found 10 litres of Mannol 5W-30 for 48EUR delivered. Per the picture below, it states specifically for Jaguar/Land Rover STJLR.03.5005 - WSS-M2C934-A A/B, code number ´7909´

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7909 arrived, but the label is different:

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no mention of Ford or JLR specificity. But the code is the same, plus the viscosity. ACEA & API numbers match to.

I will probably send it back, not prepared to wing-it. But what would others do?

I have contacted Mannol to see what the differences are, no answer yet.

Yes!

This was their email response:


"Thank you for your enquiry, I will be happy to help you.

It is possible that the Amazon dealer has not updated the images. The oils lose their approval after some time. Because the retailer has not updated the images, you have seen the old container, which still had the approval. However, the new container you received no longer has the approval, which is why you should not use it."

.... 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster - Baltic Blue, Jet interior
1997 P38 2.5 DSE auto & 1998 P38 2.5 DT Manual
1988 Vogue 3.5 EFI - Manual, gone.
2004 Volvo C70 2.0T convertible, had since new.
2007 Mazda MX-5 2.0 Sport Roadster/Coupé, had since new.
2024 Mini Cooper S cabrio, JCW kit, 2.0, DCT auto

I too am looking for the correct ‘reasonably priced’ oil to use in my 2017 4.4sdv8 and Mannol seems to fit the bill. Surely, it’s the same oil even though the label no longer has the STJLR.03.5005 quoted on it? I’m actually erring towards the 7908 Energy Premium, which is less than £60 for 20 litres. I’ve checked JLR recommended lubricants and they do say that any ACEA C2 oil may be used if STJLR.03.5005 is not available 🤔

AFAIK the manual says you can top up with C2 in an emergency but it doesn't say you can use it for an oil change. C2 is mid SAPS C1 is Low SAPS - if you have a DPF you should not be using anything but low SAPS. Smith & Allan do reasonably priced 5w-30 C1 oil which you can buy in 5 or 20L quantities - https://www.smithandallan.com/product/smit...e-oil-4127 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)