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arron

Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: lincolnshire
Posts: 123

im stuck, help.

i need some expert advise please guys, i am doing the bluetooth install to my car 54 vogue but instead of having the 54 pin plug in the boot i have the white x400 12 pin plug that only has 9 pins in it. has any one got a part number for the lead i need to convert it or can any body supply the lead please, i been pulling my hair out trying to find the lead on google and have come up with a blank.
thanks guys, arron.

6th Mar 2013 7:01pm

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7th Mar 2013 12:39pm

arron

Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: lincolnshire
Posts: 123

thanks stan, i searched and read all posts about the retrofit but it seems all range rovers upto early 2004 have the large black plug already in the boot which just needs re pinning but the late 2004 cars have the large white plug instead. theres been a few people ask about the adapter but no one seems to know anything about the loom adapter or the part number. bimmer nav do a kit but its extortionate. i have been out today and looked at a wiring diagram for the white x400 plug and it seem all the wires are there so i think i will have to make my own loom. all i need is to order the 54 pin plug from audi and get cracking. ill take some pics on the way through and if im successful i will post it on here for future people with the same problem.

7th Mar 2013 10:02pm

ccfj1

Member Since: 14 Feb 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 32

arron wrote:
thanks stan, i searched and read all posts about the retrofit but it seems all range rovers upto early 2004 have the large black plug already in the boot which just needs re pinning but the late 2004 cars have the large white plug instead. theres been a few people ask about the adapter but no one seems to know anything about the loom adapter or the part number. bimmer nav do a kit but its extortionate. i have been out today and looked at a wiring diagram for the white x400 plug and it seem all the wires are there so i think i will have to make my own loom. all i need is to order the 54 pin plug from audi and get cracking. ill take some pics on the way through and if im successful i will post it on here for future people with the same problem.

I've just made one of these up for a fellow RR member.

You will also need the 12pin x400 plug mate, I had a bit of a job finding one too.

The 54 pin plug can be got from Audi.

54 Pin connector £4 - Audi p/n 4e0-972-144.

Pins for connector £3.01 ea Audi Dealer - Audi p/n 000-979-010. (you need 11 of these)

you will also need to find the mic loom, its a small 3pin plug.

Bmw part 61.13.8.377.072 £1 and 2 pins for same 61.13.0.006.663 @ £1 ea

you will also need the Fakra BT antenna lead

BMW part 61-12-6-912-541

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GPS-1m-Antenna-E...1c2bcbef5c

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Radio-antenna-Ex...45f4f5a019

or

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fakra-A-Jack-to-Fakra-B...4603df29e6

Any of these will do, dont worry about the length, the BT antenna is good to 7-10m around the antenna, so you can have it in the boot.

you should end up with something like this.

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8th Mar 2013 2:10pm

comports

Member Since: 20 Dec 2010
Location: Colchester
Posts: 1658

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You have indeed made one up for a fellow member.... ME

It arrived today John - thanks - Having an issue getting the pairing function up but probably need to wait till I get the Bluetooth antenna and the FAKRA lead. Arial is tomorrow but lead is on back order so maybe a week or so unless I can find one somewhere else.

Aaron - The lead from ccfj is plug and play unless you need to wire up the mic up front. Ash
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8th Mar 2013 2:38pm

ccfj1

Member Since: 14 Feb 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 32

comports wrote:
You have indeed made one up for a fellow member.... ME

It arrived today John - thanks -

Ok, cool, so ULF is seen by the system and you now have the telephone option?

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Having an issue getting the pairing function up but probably need to wait till I get the Bluetooth antenna and the FAKRA lead.

It will pair without the antenna, but the phone has be be within 2" of the ULF mate, its not ideal without the antenna, but it will pair so you can test that it works, it wont work for making or receiving calls but its enough to pair the phone.

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Arial is tomorrow but lead is on back order so maybe a week or so unless I can find one somewhere else.

See list above.

I'm thinking of buying a load of these and supplying them with the BT harness as its a bit of a pain to get them separately.

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Aaron - The lead from ccfj is plug and play unless you need to wire up the mic up front.

Did you need the Mic loom in the end or did you find the mic plug??

8th Mar 2013 2:43pm

comports

Member Since: 20 Dec 2010
Location: Colchester
Posts: 1658

Thanks John,

I'll try the pairing shortly - It's pi88ing down right now..!

I can't find the mic wire up the back although there is a mic plug in the overhead console. There may be the plug under the centre console (gear lever I seem to remember) so will look for that as well. If thats there and connected then the wire must be somewhere. If not it may be just as easy to run the new loom up anyway. I forgot to send the funds for this part so will do that today.

Thanks again and sorry Aaron to hijack.! Ash
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8th Mar 2013 3:08pm

ccfj1

Member Since: 14 Feb 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 32

comports wrote:
Thanks John,

I'll try the pairing shortly - It's pi88ing down right now..!

Same here mate

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I can't find the mic wire up the back although there is a mic plug in the overhead console.

Well it must go somewhere, lol, it could be tucked up or behind a module in the boot.

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There may be the plug under the centre console (gear lever I seem to remember) so will look for that as well.

Well the mic loom is 5.5m so it should go pretty much anywhere in the car.

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If thats there and connected then the wire must be somewhere.

I concur.

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If not it may be just as easy to run the new loom up anyway. I forgot to send the funds for this part so will do that today.

Ok.

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Thanks again and sorry Aaron to hijack.!

Indeed, sorry, I have nearly enough bits (I'd need to order a couple of plugs in) to make another one of these if you need one (Aaron).

8th Mar 2013 3:13pm

arron

Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: lincolnshire
Posts: 123

no need for apologies its all good info, can i have a price for one of the looms please. it would be very handy and save me time as well.

9th Mar 2013 11:28pm

mjdronfield

Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Well this looks excellent

Would make the install pretty much "plug and play".

Even if you already had the 54 pin connector in the boot, you could disconnect it at the white plug and use this kit, which would negate the 54 pin plug rewire, which must put some owners off.

Could send the old 54 pin plug and wire back to ccfj1 to be rewired and used again in another kit.

That is of course if you have the time and can do this on an ad-hoc basis.

I rewired my 54 pin plug, which wasn't too bad once you got going, but this "kit" method would be much better.

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

10th Mar 2013 12:10pm

ccfj1

Member Since: 14 Feb 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 32

arron wrote:
no need for apologies its all good info,

Ok, cool.

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can i have a price for one of the looms please. it would be very handy and save me time as well.

I'll PM you mate.

mjdronfield wrote:
Well this looks excellent

Would make the install pretty much "plug and play".

It a fair bit easier than making one for the BMW!!

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Even if you already had the 54 pin connector in the boot, you could disconnect it at the white plug and use this kit, which would negate the 54 pin plug rewire, which must put some owners off.

Indeed.

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Could send the old 54 pin plug and wire back to ccfj1 to be rewired and used again in another kit.

True, it would make it cheaper too.

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That is of course if you have the time and can do this on an ad-hoc basis.

Well I'm not a shop or business or anything like that, just an normal bloke thats handy at car electronics.

I make BT looms up quite often for the BMW forums (e38, e39, x5, x3, z4 etc). making one for the RR is the same but slightly easier because you have the x400 plug and the bmw does not (I have to make the loom in a different way).

Now that I know whats needed for the RR making more is not a problem and can be done as and when people want them.

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I rewired my 54 pin plug, which wasn't too bad once you got going, but this "kit" method would be much better.

Indeed, it does make it easier.

I would still like to know if all the cars with the x400 plug where the mic plug goes (so I can adjust the mic loom length).

The Pair button can be pretty much any length and if you have the same cradle setup as the BMW then you can also have the charging and phone option (snapin adapter), if you like.

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Many thanks.

John

10th Mar 2013 1:09pm

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