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England 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue
Air suspension !!!

Brought the car last week it's a 4.4 vogue !!! When I got car home I lowerd the suspension but when I tried to lift a gain wouldn't go back up eventually found that front drivers side air bag was shot !!! Fitted new item car still wouldn't lift properly so tonight have fitted a repair kit to compressor cleared all faults now car as lifted then lowerd back end went down the front stayed up and then switched back to raise now car as gone as high on front as it possibly could and rear sat approx where it should no mater what I do car won't come down on front I have a snap on diagnostic set up etc and as no faults showing etc !!!!! Can some one help I've got an old p38 4.6 that's give me less Afros in 8 years than this as in a week and 2 days !!!!! Sad Sad

Post #245369 27th Feb 2014 11:07pm
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Joe90



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Check your height sensors are all OK, sometimes they get "spun" around when changing a strut. Also sounds like you need to calibrate the suspension. .
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Post #245383 27th Feb 2014 11:50pm
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Tried to calibrate last nigh and it comes up with calibration failed !!!! Was wondering about slacking the air pipes off at the valves behind the inner arches near floor to let it down as the bags are sat on top of struts / don't think you could get any more air in them if you tried ????? As the gap from to of the wheels to arch must be a good 300 mm -/+ and don't no what / if any damage could be done ????

Post #245412 28th Feb 2014 8:02am
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Joe90



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Handbrake on / Door Open while you are trying things? This will block any changes!

Try battery disconnection procedure to "reset things" ? .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
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Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Post #245415 28th Feb 2014 9:10am
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Suppose I get car back down later lol !!!! Which position should suspension be set to when u set ride height ???? Will try battery disconnect tonight after work and leave off for half an hr !!!!! Cheers for your suggestions etc !!!!

Post #245431 28th Feb 2014 11:09am
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Joe90



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For calibration you should start off at "normal" ride height (but this may depend on the process for your particular diagnostic tool) I know with the RSW Allcoms you start at normal then the process makes the car rise to a secret height for calibration purposes. .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
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MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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I changed the front two struts the other day and I keep getting off road speed notifications when it's not in off road height. But it's not every time just random.

It's adds character lol Bushy

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We'll let all air out of front suspension etc !!!! Batt been off for an hour etc reconnected cleared all faults back end gone up front quite slow but then went slightly higher than rear so then went to lower car and front end gone right back to top as was last night any ideas!!!!!! Please

Post #245501 28th Feb 2014 7:44pm
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As anybody any more ideas before I have to try and drive car back to nr Newcastle up on Tyne and try and get me money back !!!!! Looks like I will then be sticking with me old 1996 p38 4.6 hse that been hardly any bother in 8 yrs !!!! Thought the reputation of the p38 was bad but not much hope for the l332 either !!!!! As I've had this new one a week last Wednesday and all it's done is peterlee to notts area and £8500 of my hard earned cash !!!!!

Post #245560 1st Mar 2014 5:19am
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May need a hard reset with diagnostics and re-calibration. As you are not getting any faults, it is difficult to understand what the problem is, but it does seem you have something out of configuration, for me this is pointing towards height sensors not sending the right information back. .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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We'll just had another go at the car !!!! Let all air out of suspension and started again started back up car lifted to where it looked ok if any thing slightly higher at back but when I pressed the button on drivers door for access mode front of car shot up !!!! So drained air again etc restarted etc car settled as before so I put the suspension alt button on and all seems ok and stayed there !!!!! Set of down street where I live no suspension lights flashing or owt then you could air compressor cut in then front of car as lifted as high as it can go rear as stayed where it was plugged snap on tool in and showing no faults again !!!!! Could this be a electrical fault possible compressor fault etc ???????

Post #245645 1st Mar 2014 6:18pm
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Any more ideas any one ??????

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markcartlidge



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sounds like a sensor fault. something intermittent dry joint or fractured wire in the cable?

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Could be faulty valve block. Or sensors.

Obviously it's getting air, as it can lift the car, so the compressor is working ok, it seems to be staying up Albeit in the wrong configuration, so it's not leaking, so it either doesn't know what height it's at or can't stop when it gets to the correct height so maybe one of the valves is sticking which regulates the air flow to the airbags, or its not getting a signalfrom the height sensors.

I think someone on here has stripped the block down before, and rebuilt/replaced it so have a search Thumbs Up

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England 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Right I have disconnected main electric plug on compressor removed panel below front air valve and let air out till ithe front wings above wheels measured about 830 mm drove round block seems ok going to try and get booked in at dls near Ashbourne to see what's wrong and let them go through rest of car to see what's wrong then the garage I brought car from can get it sorted or give me my money back !!!!! Or can any one recommend a independent land rover specialist in notts/ Derbyshire area ?????

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