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tymh



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Tonga Green
L322 Air suspension

This has been playing up recently.

Initially, I thought it was due to a slow puncture in my rear off side tyre - when I pumped it up the AS became active again. Then next day it was inactive again - no amount of pumping up cured it!

Front offside suspension lower than all the others... tried lock to lock - no difference.

Had the slow fixed yesterday and now that corner looks to be low too - so the full offside is lower than the nearside!

Tried disconnecting the battery - leaving for half an hour and putting it back on again to see if it would all reset, but no. All it did was reset the clock! Wink

Anyone experienced this and found an easy cure? Tym
(current) L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue 2008 Tonga Green
(previous) L322 4.4 LPG Vogue SE 2003

If it sticks, force it. If it breaks, it needs replacing anyway.

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Joe90



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Not getting any faults if you drive it? (slowly and carefully!)

Sounds to me like you have a leak, even though you can't hear one.

Check:

Bags
Pipes
Connectors
Valve Blocks (reservoir, wheelarches RHS front, LHS rear)
Reservoir Sensor (for leaks)
Height Sensors .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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tymh



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Tonga Green

Only faults relate the "trans failsafe " - PNP error...drives fine, thought here is a "clunk" on full lock and the suspension seems rather unforgiving when coming down off a speed bump!

Gonna have to hit Rave to find all this stuff! Wink Tym
(current) L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue 2008 Tonga Green
(previous) L322 4.4 LPG Vogue SE 2003

If it sticks, force it. If it breaks, it needs replacing anyway.

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tymh



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Tonga Green

Is calibration a dealer only function? Tym
(current) L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue 2008 Tonga Green
(previous) L322 4.4 LPG Vogue SE 2003

If it sticks, force it. If it breaks, it needs replacing anyway.

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Joe90



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Only if you don't have your own diagnostic tool - e.g. IIDTool/AllComms/Faultmate/Hawkeye etc .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Post #292833 13th Nov 2014 10:39pm
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tymh



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Tonga Green

Oh Bother! I only have navcoder... Tym
(current) L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue 2008 Tonga Green
(previous) L322 4.4 LPG Vogue SE 2003

If it sticks, force it. If it breaks, it needs replacing anyway.

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Actually, Joe, Hawkeye can't do an EAS calibration. We (at GAP) have spoken about this in the past: people continually compare the IIDTool to the Hawkeye because they are in the same price category (actually, the IIDTool is less expensive!). But they are not nearly in the same category functionality-wise. Maybe we should make the IIDTool more expensive... Smile

tymh, you say the only fault you've had is "trans failsafe" - but I assume you mean the only faults you've had on the info display. Every l322 has numerous faults logged nearly all the time - most of which are irrelevant to normal operation. If your EAS was inactive, you will have faults logged in the EAS ECU, but you will have to have them read with a diagnostic system. Even the Hawkeye can do this... (sorry, I had to get that in Razz )

Going to the RAVE is a sensible thing to do. Understanding exactly how the system works is key to repairing it properly. But not having the codes read is going to cost much time and aggravation. Any indy LR shop should be able to read the codes for a few quid. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

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Joe90



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Pardon my ignorance Steve Cool

As quite a few owners have Hawkeye I assumed they could also calibrate with it. I remain a lucky one with an IIDTool (can calibrate but have car with LHS front that won't play!! Wink .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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tymh



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Tonga Green

Thanks Steve - i *do* have a code reader, but so far it's only giving me PNP error. As today is dry (and I have to work outside on my car!) i'm spending time on this as the whle right side is now lower than the left... leans like a badly loaded cargo ship! Just printed the Suspension details off so I can read them - hate reading lots of text on screen... I think the symptoms do favour a leak, and that the read offside went duff when they had t jack it up - putting the car's weight on that air spring.

Is there anything other than the "range rover" leak spray I can use to test for leaks? Tym
(current) L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue 2008 Tonga Green
(previous) L322 4.4 LPG Vogue SE 2003

If it sticks, force it. If it breaks, it needs replacing anyway.

Post #293666 17th Nov 2014 8:23am
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Joe90 wrote:
Pardon my ignorance Steve Cool

As quite a few owners have Hawkeye I assumed they could also calibrate with it. I remain a lucky one with an IIDTool (can calibrate but have car with LHS front that won't play!! Wink

Thumbs Up
What's up with your LF air spring? I remember that we had a conversation about this a while back, I just don't remember the prob.

Tym, as far as leak spray goes - only use Palmolive + water in a spray bottle. It softens your hands while you fix the car. LOL

There are only a few code reader only devices (2 actually AFAIK) that will read the EAS ECU and other proprietary LR systms. Both are nearly as expensive as the non-bt IIDTool and do much less. (Just so you don't spend hours searching...) 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

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tymh



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Tonga Green

Can't possibly test this... Censored

My AS is inactive, so the compressor won't come on, so there's nothing *to* test!

My car has sunk on the right, and it's horrible going over bumps!

Is there a way I can force the compressor to com on? Tym
(current) L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue 2008 Tonga Green
(previous) L322 4.4 LPG Vogue SE 2003

If it sticks, force it. If it breaks, it needs replacing anyway.

Post #295289 26th Nov 2014 1:42pm
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Joe90



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You could try "jumping it"

Release the connector

RED/WHITE wire live
BROWN wire earth

But may not work if valve block doesn't open for you. (Have not tried this!)

Best thing is to get it on some diagnostics to reset suspension. .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Post #295296 26th Nov 2014 2:31pm
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Joe90



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@ SteveMfr

Think it is a height sensor issue, LF is always between 20 and 50mm lower than RF (which is correct). Calibration with All Comms and IIDTool wouldn't sort it out, not would manual height setting (IID). Eventually gave up as car doesn't look to wonky and I don't get any faults. One day will get around to fitting a new height sensor. Thumbs Up .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Post #295297 26th Nov 2014 2:34pm
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You can jumper the valves as well - tho I'd have to look at the wiring in RAVE to figure out which and I've no time tonite...

With an appropriate diagnostic tool, you can manually activate the components as well and pump the RR up. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

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tymh



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Tonga Green

I have NavCoder, which will read codes and clear the errors in each module (as it did with my airbag light) but I don't think it would activate anything... Tym
(current) L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue 2008 Tonga Green
(previous) L322 4.4 LPG Vogue SE 2003

If it sticks, force it. If it breaks, it needs replacing anyway.

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