Sorry to hear of you continued problems How did you go on with LR in terms of gesture of good will?

Thanks for all the pointers. I think a call to the lawyer is next. On a separate note the Range Rover Sport loaner arrived 24 hours later like this:

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Basilfawlty wrote:

Sorry to hear of you continued problems How did you go on with LR in terms of gesture of good will?

Let's hope you do better this time

Has this put too much of a sour taste in your mouth regarding the brand to continue with it after this has been resolve Disputes?

No as my 2013 L405 didn't miss a beat in 13,000 miles (apart from the fuel sloshing noise) so I think I have just got a bad one

I do know what you mean. I've had a few issues with dealerships, which made me look at the Q7 brochure but boy is it ugly and too low. The big problem is that very many of us put up without perfection because perfection doesn't really exist

Like almost everything in life. It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be the best available option. And some days the quality Gods just don't seem to care so the odd lemon gets through. But I agree, it's a real pi55er when it happens to be yours.

Build quality is one word crap  Current vehicles
4.2 SC FFRR RSE 2010- facelift
Range Rover Evogue Dynamic Lux

Gone
Rejected RRS my14.5 nightmare
Disco B4 XXV convert
Freelander 06 SE
06 RFFRR 4.2 SC Vogue RSE
Audi A8 4.2Tdi Quattro (hated with a vengence!!)
54 FFRR 2005 model V8 4.4 Cobra Variant
53 Mitsubishi Shogun V6

Dealer has been testing over the Christmas period (not sure how often) but they can not replicate the fault?!?

LR Tech at my home discussed all sorts of errors and didn't clear down the faults so the dealer could investigate further. I think this is a way to to try and fob me off.

If they do not know what was wrong then they can't fix it I am assuming. Its the fourth time it has failed to start and its intermittent.

I'm sorry to hear you've still got this very annoying issue. I think perhaps time has come to ask them to either replace or to smooth your way into another car.

It may seem a bit of a mad suggestion this but given that most of our cars are very good it just seems the bad ones out there will change hands more frequently as owners wash their hands of them.

However, as we are part of a large dedicated forum wouldn't it benefit the membership if we kept a record of the really bad ones with persistent faults, or where the car has been rejected? In that way we could not only fore-warn prospective new customers of problem cars but it would also liven up Land Rovers response to this type of problem.

I appreciate there would be things to consider and take into account but it's just a thought.

Cant you get them to take the car back if the same fault happens 3 times ?  All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

2023 FFRR L460
2020 Range Rover Velar

I am not sure if there is a hard and fast rule

It is like this in the fatherland. I did this once with an Aston Martin that had 3 times the same fault (ABS fault came up all the time). All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

2023 FFRR L460
2020 Range Rover Velar

I had a recollection that the LR warranty terms included the three goes rule, but having checked the handbook (2012) yesterday see that it does not say that. Perhaps this was in my 2004 handbook, during the BMW era and has been dropped by Ford/Tata. Only Range Rovers since 1988

i mean - isn't that stipulated in your consumer laws ? All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

2023 FFRR L460
2020 Range Rover Velar