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rar110

Member Since: 09 Aug 2014
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

Well done Pete. ______________________________
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1st Oct 2015 9:58pm

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16403

2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Haylands wrote:
Don't under any circumstances remove the back box, it is ridiculously loud, makes your ears bleed, children run away screaming, car alarms go off.... etc etc it really is far too loud to leave like it is I have several ideas to reduce the noise to an acceptable level...

But it does sound wonderful, rather like an American NASCAR...

Haven't really got an other pics of the bumper, the pics on page 2 give the best idea, the front of the bumper is welded to the front of the winch tray and the top goes just under the headlights... not really much else to see..

That set up on page 2 would fit behind the original bumper but you would have to fix the bumper some different way and remove a lot of the foam and plastic from the back of it...

You don’t sound sure Pete...Like your in two minds

1st Oct 2015 10:06pm

miggit

Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 3669

I was going to comment that the loss of the rear box hasn't stopped Pete using the Beast, and surely if it was that loud he'd have put the old box back on

Pete, how about some cherry bombs? they are fairly unobtrusive, failing that I was looking in to a stainless exhaust, most are made from 2 boxes side by side, you might be able to do something along those lines, but smaller and less likely to be removed during one of your excursions

That's a Borla exhaust and Magnaflow do what looks to be a smaller version of std

Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

1st Oct 2015 11:15pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8826

2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

It'll be something along the lines of the Borla, may drop the pipe size from 60mm down to 50mm as well, then if it's still too loud I'll stick a couple of decibel killers on it...

It's doing great mpg at the minute, only because I'm driving it with the smallest amount of throttle that I can...

Craig, the sound is superb, if it sounded like it does at 10% throttle when on full throttle then it would be great... I don't think the centre boxes are doing anything, I'm getting pops and bangs on the over run as well..... Pete
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1st Oct 2015 11:47pm

miggit

Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 3669

Bloody attention seeker

That Magnaflow box is half the size of a std box looking at the mounting brackets Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

1st Oct 2015 11:57pm

sako243

Member Since: 26 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 613

2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

I think I'm going to have to stop off on the way up north at the end of the month to hear this. Unless Pete decides to accommodate us down south with either a recording.

Or at least warning us when he's going out for a drive so I can come out of the office for a listen... Ed

2nd Oct 2015 6:58am

miggit

Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 3669

Remember all that thunder last Sunday the 27th, but it didn't rain........ Pete Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

2nd Oct 2015 11:56am

johnboyairey

Member Since: 11 Jan 2013
Location: surrey
Posts: 2035

2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

Can you share a you tube sound file?

I've heard it, on a motorway, it's loud!

2nd Oct 2015 5:04pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8826

Ed, and anyone else passing, you're more than welcome to pop in anytime...

John, I'll see what I can do, a bit worried it might wreck my iPhone if I try to record it though....

Got a phone call this morning offering me a cancellation on Monday for my knee op, it was supposed to be next Friday... so I've been a busy bee today doing what I was going to next week... sorting out the spare wheel carrier, the "one bottom mount" idea didn't work very well, I used two saddle clamp bearings but the saddles weren't really up to the job and flexed a lot, I was trying to do it on the cheap as a mate gave me them to try...

Anyway design number two involved Heim Joints (Rose Joint) and a top mount as well... 14mm heavy duty joints and stainless fixings came to about ï¿½60...

Cut out and welded on two 8mm thick top mounts, ground down and painted.

Finally in place, it's now very strong and has no flex at all...

Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
-Click here for Thread-
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click here for Project Fatty off roader-

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2nd Oct 2015 5:52pm

miggit

Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes
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Nice job Buddy I hope all is well with the new knee next week And recording the beast, simples, get someone else to do it, from a mile away Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

2nd Oct 2015 10:43pm

RaveRover

Member Since: 14 Mar 2017
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 36

Maaaaaan.. Cant see any pictures.. would love to see how u did the rear wheel carrier.

12th Jun 2018 10:41am

ohuntsman

Member Since: 21 Mar 2016
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 341

2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

It is such a shame and a sad loss to the forum that all of Pete's images got lost

12th Jun 2018 12:42pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8826

All pictures mostly back where they should be, this next bit is a bit late in time order, was done 2016....

Time for some more work on the bumpers, we made them just over a year ago and I didn't get time to complete them just how I wanted them or finish them properly before the photo shoot for LRO....

So a year out in the wilds with no protection meant they were looking a bit second hand.. especially the rear one..

Rear bumper, all that mess at the bottom is rust bubbles...

Inside of the rear bumper

I also had a later supercharged look grill donated to the cause (thanks Ross) so decided to butcher it to fit, these grills fit so much better around the winch as they are more "complete" ie you can cut smaller bits off without them falling apart, 20mins with a 1mm cutting disk and it fits... Plus I get to keep the Land Rover badge...

The chrome trim I cut off the bottom for the winch will trim both sides and finish it off by hiding the curve where it goes around the later light and the slight curve in the bottom rail, this is an aftermarket chrome grille and it's quite badly pitted so I will paint it to cut down the "bling" a bit...

I also fancied a few extras, some fog/driving lights in the front bumper, something close to the original. Being a child of the 70's I'vs always wanted something "Frenched" in as was all the rage back then...... and also (and this is VERY unusual for me) an "A" bar, I have never liked them and never had one on any car I've had but I offered one up a while ago at my mates as he had some for 90's lying around... anyway a few mods to the size, work out the width at the top and the side angles and had this bent up out of 60mm tube with a 5mm wall, so it's not just for show....

They leave them nice and long for height adjustment...

Worked out the height required and also tilted it forward a few degrees, upright just didn't look right...

This also means you can't steal the winch, it won't come out through the hole... makes the bumper a bit heavy when fitting it with the winch though...!!!

Also, anyone notice the big

up.... new grill means I get the Land Rover badge back (the earlier grille's badge is further towards the center of the car so was totally removed when trimming for the winch) and the new "A" bar means you can't see it....

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Oh well, you can't have everything and the keen eyed among you will notice that I had some Land Rover badges made in a different proportion so it would fit in place of the "ComeUp" badge on the winch...

I digress... on with the bumpers...

Next job was to markup and cut out the hole for the fogs, bumpers thickness here is 4mm so took a while with a jigsaw, notice how the cutout wants to return to it's original flat shape.. also had to cut out an ellipse as I wanted the lights facing forward on the curved bumper..

Cut a 50mm wide strip of 3mm plate (all that was in stock) made a former and bent it into a rough shape, beat hell out of it with a hammer and got it in the hole, careful measurements and the use of several squares ensured the lights would point "sort of" in the right direction...

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Tack weld and hammer to make it fit, then cut off the excess from the front

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The run a weld all the way round...

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Then grind it back and try the light for size, lights a bit low here, I'll bring it forward a bit when fitted.. lights were cheap LED's from China, very bright and cheap to replace, they also have plastic lenses so pretty tough... Doesn't look very round here, but it's just the angle the pic is taken from...

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Then start again the other side... and finally weld the "A" bar on...

Then it was time for the rear bumper, no mods to it but I did want a towbar that was removable. Obviously only for use off road as it will not have type approval...

We decided to go mad with this, 5 x 50mm angle hooked behind the 8mm plate that is the rear of the bumper, this remember is bolted to the rear of the car, and also the spreaders that reach forward down the chassis legs... (yes I know it hasn't got a chassis but the rear legs are just like one and thicker and stronger than most cars...!!!) This is probably three times as strong as the original tow bar, no way is this bending or breaking...

This angle is bolted to the bumper with three M16 bolts into captive nuts, then another 5 x 50mm plate under the bumper bolted with another 2 M16 bolts into captive nuts that miss the winch.. 100x50x5mm box section is then welded on with side fillets to stop flex, then a drop plate made from 10mm plate to the required height (the center hole is the correct height when the FF is at "my" standard height) was welded on the end with another fillet underneath and a top fillet as well... No way is this not strong enough... It's also not that heavy so will be easy enough to fit and remove...

The rear bumper is upside down here...

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Some nice welding...

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The bumpers are now going off for shot blasting and should be back tomorrow, I'll fettle the bumpers hopefully Monday and then both bumpers and the tow bar will go off for hot dip galvanising...

Drove the FF home without any bumpers but it was dark so no one noticed....

Looks like it's got it's mouth open... Jetwashed all the mud off as well...

A big thanks to my mate Nidge who is pretty good at welding and strong enough to hump them about, whilst I fall about all over the place.... Anyone need some fabricating doing let me know, he does it all....

12th Jun 2018 1:10pm

ohuntsman

Member Since: 21 Mar 2016
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 341

Wow! Epic as always Pete

Hope the boat is going well?

12th Jun 2018 1:59pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8826

Bumpers finished, hot dip galvanised, stone chipped and painted

12th Jun 2018 2:52pm

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