Hi....

I’m bit bothered by this cert and the way it’s applied to the FFRR

I have a late 2016 4L which is a euro 6 engine.

On receipt of the crit aire, I’m a yellow sticker,and that lumps me in with euro5 diesel and euro 4 petrol

Strikes me this is a bit severe and will certainly dent JLR sales... and at some point in the future restrict my access to some cities...although I suspect those type of restrictions will only come in long after the car has fallen apart.

Anyone any views/comments on the crit aire and how it related to FFRR..


Bill Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

I’m afraid I can’t give you anything helpful or positive, Bill, all I can do is confirm you have the correct sticker for your Fatty and confirm your Euro 6 diesel is indeed considered on a par with Euro 5 diesel and Euro 4 petrol. (There’s much diesel-bashing in France …)
From the Government's Crit’Air website (https://www.ecologique-solidaire.gouv.fr/c...ir-critair):

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PS In case of interest to anyone, here's a link to the English version of the Government's site:
https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/
(It includes a link to a page in English for applying for the certificate)

 It's "bébéchoon", ackcherly, with accents. 'Steve' to my chums.
20 years ownership of Solihull products, ALL GONE NOW, sniff!
Current motor: Suzuki S-Cross 4WD auto, 1.4 petrol. Oh so reliable! 7 years now and no problems. Oh, all right then, a leaking shocker replaced under guarantee.
Previous:
TD6 HSE L322 Auto FF
2.5 TDi 4-door Classic
Disco II
And my 1st Rangie: in 1995, a 2-door VM 2.5 diesel Classic
Not to mention the Lada Niva before those. (I said not to mention it!)

so this is the sticker that certain french cities require...???? ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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Yep, assa one Stan!
Some cities already require them, some will probably soon require them.
There are various Brit sites where you can find info on the current situation. https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-...ch-cities/ is one, for example.

 It's "bébéchoon", ackcherly, with accents. 'Steve' to my chums.
20 years ownership of Solihull products, ALL GONE NOW, sniff!
Current motor: Suzuki S-Cross 4WD auto, 1.4 petrol. Oh so reliable! 7 years now and no problems. Oh, all right then, a leaking shocker replaced under guarantee.
Previous:
TD6 HSE L322 Auto FF
2.5 TDi 4-door Classic
Disco II
And my 1st Rangie: in 1995, a 2-door VM 2.5 diesel Classic
Not to mention the Lada Niva before those. (I said not to mention it!)

thanks steve

these are the cities you need to avoid or pay to visit,


Paris
Lyon
Grenoble
Lille
Strasbourg
Toulouse
Chambery
Marseille ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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Pay to visit seems a bit harsh - its a one time cost of something like £5 for the sticker.....

The charge is for the moment only small, about 4quid and lasts the lifetime of the car. Unless of course you need a new windscreen and they won’t issue a duplicate!

My question is probably aimed at JLR, I would expect JLR to have an interest in the products JLR sell & pose questions to the French authorities as to why they want to lump euro 6 engines in with others....

I’m not sure if the 3L engine gets the same treatment...

Bill Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

What happens if you don't have one letters not necessarily in the right order

Good point ... it’s a fine, but a warning , just returned from Paris and I have never seen so many tow trucks together with people driving them that look as if they are on a bonus scheme! The cost of a fiver doesn’t matter much. More concern about how a local French council can demonise a Euro6 engine...JLR /motor trade should really take up this issue...

Bill Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...