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mjdronfield



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Delayed Air Con

Ever since I had this one, there seems to be a delay with the cold air coming out the vents from startup..... everything is set correct and working normal, it's fully gassed and works brill, but it can take 5 or so mins for cold to come out. It's like something opens up late....

I thought it might be a bit delayed due to keeping initial emissions down, but now I don't think it's right...

Any thoughts? 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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Johnsd1v8



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Mine is the same pal on start up it blows cool and takes like you say 5 mins or so to atart chilling after 10-15 its ice cold 👍

Post #444835 17th Jul 2017 7:53pm
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Dolphinboy



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My guess is your flaps are sticky!! Shocked

There appears to be an amount of "gunk" which builds up over time and makes it difficult for the motors to open the flaps quickly and allow the cold air through.

If you try pressing the face vent button and seeing if that allows air through straight away or not, that should tell you the extent of the problem. Mine are slightly delayed at the moment which points to dirt build up in the flaps.

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mjdronfield



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Ah.... I shall try that.......

Cheers

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Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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GraemeS



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The cause could be the known problem of a sticky refrigerant control valve (RCV) in the a/c compressor.
LTB00693v3 - compressor slow to start cooling (5/10 mins), low pressure high side or high pressure low side.

Post #444864 18th Jul 2017 1:05am
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Sarchopperman



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Do you have access to this TSB? I think my RR refrigerant control valve is sticky and needs replacing RR L322 TDV8 4.4 SE 2019 to present
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Post #481863 25th Jun 2018 7:47pm
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mjdronfield



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I looked on the net but only found foreign links.

It’s still the same now....a year on.... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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northernmonkeyjones



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Mine does the same I think.

I basically get no air at all on a really hot day for a couple of mins.

I think what it could be is that until the air is blowing colder than the inside temp it doesn’t blow anything as it would be making the cabin hotter......
On hot days it’s a pain. Doesn’t seem to make a difference what vent settings the buttons are on😂 There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

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mjdronfield



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Oh I get air....full blast....all hot from outside....forced at you..... then after a while it just goes icy cold and it’s fine...until you turn off, then it’ll either do the same again or be ok.... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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GraemeS



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Below is LTB00693V3 which IIRC was sourced from another thread on this forum in which several owners reported their a/c slow to start resolved by replacing the mentioned valve.

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kooky_guy



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Aha. Interesting thread. Mine is doing exactly this, except that sometimes it doesn't ever blow cold, which is a bit annoying in the current weather.

I can't seem to find anyone able to investigate it, but this gives me something to point at though. Thanks! 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

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Paul thornton



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Funnily enough we've just noticed that ours does this.
Short journeys and it just blows warm air but the longer it's driven the colder it gets.

Will have to look into this.

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kooky_guy



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Weirdly, the faster I drive, the sooner it starts blowing cold... 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

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nino_nino



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Bosnia Herzegovina 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Black TDV8 Santorini Black

did somebody replace valve? can it be done with compressor in place? pictures?

Nino,

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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

Non-English versions of the TSB can be found on the net which show the repair kit part number for the 4.4 TDV8 in the L322 is LR061463 with a repair time of 3.6 hours. This kit and LR061464 appear to cover all LRs affected. The problematic valve also occurs in many other brand vehicles.

IIRC from wherever it was that I read about the fault that at least one 4.4 TDV8 L322 was repaired with the compressor in-situ.

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