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kanikune



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Finland 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Epsom Green
Preparing to rebuild M62

My rattling engine idle had been on for some time and finally due to increased oil consumption and blue smoke opened the head.

So.

Let's rebuild the motor, hopefully. I got used block coming with good bores.

So I have Victor Reinz gasket set 02-33396-01 for the heads. Then I found from Victor Reinz page they also make gasket set for the crank case, 08-31828-03. So obviously I need that. But it's really hard to find details on these sets, what specifically they contain? Are these two sets adequate to seal the whole engine?

What else is advisable to change at the same time? Chains, guides, water pump? Anything else?






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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

great car T!! lovely colour! Not sure what your mileage is but I had the Chain guides done at 189,000 miles (310,000KM). Its a big job (£3,000 in UK) so worth doing. The guides get brittle over time and crack when the chain slaps it, especially on start up).

I would also maybe replace the radiator as the lower veins get filled with crud and lead to gearbox oil overheat. Also worth fitting a good quality water pump as I had 2 go on me. Ended up with a Hella.

Do as much as you can (afford) now and you will have a great car that will be a classic soon!! Thumbs Up

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ohuntsman



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

How is this job going/gone?

My bores are scored but not as bad as that - I have just one line in four of my cylinders

Not sure what to do

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kanikune



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Actually last night we fired up the rebuild and did short test drive. Everything seems to be gone perfect at the moment but still needs to see things are okay. I will return to this soon.
The first start video is nerv-wrecking.

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ohuntsman



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That good.

I removed the cams, cleaned and reseated all the valves.

I’m now at a loss as to how I time the engine? Does anyone know please?

I can find out how to do it if you keep the lock blocks in place but not if you have had to remove them?

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kanikune



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You need the M62tu timing tool set.
If you google M62tub44 timing tool set or M62tu timing tool set you'll find it.

I have some VANOS error codes from the bank 2. I'm little bit puzzled if solenoid wires are mixed or timing is bad. At least the engine doesn't sound bad.

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RRYorks



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ohuntsman wrote:
That good.

I removed the cams, cleaned and reseated all the valves.

I’m now at a loss as to how I time the engine? Does anyone know please?

I can find out how to do it if you keep the lock blocks in place but not if you have had to remove them?


You need a timing kit, I have one, only used once if you are interested 2010 3.6 TDV8

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ohuntsman



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Thanks, I have all that.

What I don’t have is the procedure to use the Cam locks to re- time the engine.

RAVE only has the procedure to lock the cams in place when you remove the heads and leave the cam locks on the whole time so the cams are oriented correctly when refitting the heads.

I had to take the cam locks off to re seat the valves

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RRYorks



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I’m not sure RAVE covers that engine?

Basically, you set number 1 to TDC using the locking pin, install the heads and the turn the cams and fit the locking bars. Once the chain and gears are installed, you use the tool to set the position of the timing gears on the cams. I’ll see if I can get the procedure on a PDF for you. 2010 3.6 TDV8

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gt40



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South Africa 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Zambezi Silver

ohuntsman wrote:
Thanks, I have all that.

What I don’t have is the procedure to use the Cam locks to re- time the engine.

RAVE only has the procedure to lock the cams in place when you remove the heads and leave the cam locks on the whole time so the cams are oriented correctly when refitting the heads.

I had to take the cam locks off to re seat the valves


You will find the procedure in RAVE; Engine V8; overhaul; Gasket -cylinder head.

Further information on camshaft orientation in the next section - Cylinder head overhaul which leads you to Variable Camshaft Unit - variable camshaft control (VCC).

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kanikune



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Okay so aforementioned two Victor Reinz sets include 98% of the gaskets for the job.
It took me awhile to find this information.

Victor Reinz gasket set 02-33396-01 includes:
1 x 11121436760, valve cover gasket, bank 1 X1
1 x 11121436761, valve cover gasket, bank 2 X1
2 x 11121437343, valve cover gasket, inner X2
16 x 11121437395, valve cover nut grommet X16
6 x 11121721879, valve cover bolt seal X6
2 x 11121706927, head non-return valve o-ring x2
2 x 11121733969, beauty trim/cover gasket X2
4 x 61311459030, beauty trim/cover bolt o-ring X4
2 x 11141435023, VANOS solenoid gasket x2
1 x 11141736758, timing cover gasket ring x
1 x 11141741127, upper timing cover gasket, bank 1 x
1 x 11141741128, upper timing cover gasket, bank 2 x
1 x 07119963355, timing chain tensioner gasket ring x
2 x 12141748398, camshaft sensor o-ring x2
2 x 11151439989, crankcase vent o-ring (not for X5) ei
1 x 11151747978, crankcase vent o-ring (not for X5) ei
1 x 11151702291, back cover profile gasket x1
1 x 11151736140, back coolant pipe o-ring x1
2 x 11349063193, valve stem seal kit x2
1 x 11361705578, VANOS profile gasket, bank 1 x1
1 x 11361705579, VANOS profile gasket, bank 2 x1
2 x 07119906361, timing chain tensioner o-ring x1
2 x 11531710048, large coolant tube o-ring (valley pan) x2
2 x 11531710055, small coolant tube o-ring (valley pan) x2
2 x 11531731833, coolant pipe profile gasket x2
2 x 07119963200, coolant pipe plug gasket ring x2
4 x 11611433328, intake manifold gasket x4
1 x 11611729727, intake manifold front gasket x1
1 x 11611729728, intake manifold rear gasket x1
1 x 13547510433, throttle body seal ring x1
1 x 11611745195, vent pipe o-ring x1
3 x 11627505789, exhaust manifold gasket X3
1 x 11627509677, exhaust manifold gasket X1
2 x 11727505259, secondary air valve gasket ei
2 x 07119901511, secondary air pipe o-ring ei
16 x 13641437476, fuel injector upper/lower o-ring x16


Victor Reinz gasket set for the crank case 08-31828-03 includes:
1 x 07119906363, center oil chain guide o-ring x
2 x 07119963130, 12x15.5mm gasket ring
1 x 07119963151, oil pan drain plug gasket ring x
3 x 07119963225, 14x20mm gasket ring x3
3 x 07119963252, screw plug gasket ring x3
2 x 11421741129, 18x2.5mm o-ring x1
1 x 07119963300, lower timing cover screw plug gasket ring x
1 x 11141436978, lower timing cover gasket set x
1 x 07119963355, timing chain tensioner gasket ring x
1 x 11137500260, upper oil pan gasket x
1 x 11137500261, lower oil pan gasket x
1 x 11141275466, front crankshaft shaft seal x
1 x 11141710247, rear main seal x
1 x 11141736521, rear main seal cover gasket x
6 x 11141435968, rear main seal washer gasket x6
1 x 11141729836, rear cover gasket x
1 x 11421288890, oil pipe o-ring x
1 x 11421435020, oil suction pipe o-ring x
2 x 11421702905, oil system pressure hose o-ring x2
2 x 11421702916, oil system pressure hose o-ring x2
2 x 11421713597, lower tensioner rail o-ring x2
1 x 11431707164, dipstick lower o-ring x
2 x 11431717666, dipstick upper o-ring x
1 x 11511705408, thermostat o-ring x
1 x 11511731372, water pump profile gasket x
2 x 12311718712, oil line flange o-ring x1
1 x 12611744292, oil level sensor gasket ring ?
1 x 32411129986, oil line gasket ring (Z8 only)

This is originally of course BMW set, so there are some unused gaskets too. For some reason oil pump gasket was missing on my set.
It's quite easy to locate gaskets here:
http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/E53/Euro...se/engine/

What is missing on the sets:
Head gaskets.
Oil filter stand gaskets. Engine side is covered. 25x3. BMW recommends 23x3 bit the ID is 25.4 or so. I don't understand the stretch so I used the more fit.
Alternator gasket, big one (BMW 12 31 7 507 996).
Spacer Sleeve, (BMW 11 11 1 739 185). This comes above non-return valve between block and heads.

All the front diff o-rings at least should be changed. The big one is close to 90x3. I replaced also all radial seals of the front diff.
I'll update this list as I remember what else was missing.



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ohuntsman



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gt40 wrote:
ohuntsman wrote:
Thanks, I have all that.

What I don’t have is the procedure to use the Cam locks to re- time the engine.

RAVE only has the procedure to lock the cams in place when you remove the heads and leave the cam locks on the whole time so the cams are oriented correctly when refitting the heads.

I had to take the cam locks off to re seat the valves


You will find the procedure in RAVE; Engine V8; overhaul; Gasket -cylinder head.

Further information on camshaft orientation in the next section - Cylinder head overhaul which leads you to Variable Camshaft Unit - variable camshaft control (VCC).


Ahh that is AMAZING, thank you so much, I can only see bank 5-8 but not 1-4 though???

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Landyandy1765



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

i have a vanos timing kit if anyones interested . also new thermostat housing . and a new pcv valve

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ohuntsman



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How much for the PCV?

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Landyandy1765



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Hi £50. For the pcv

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