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michaelpalmer7



Member Since: 08 May 2015
Location: Bedford
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Rimini Red

Quick update.

I ended up buying a full LR replacement unit in the end, plugged it in and works perfectly.

I’m sure the repair option is not impossible if the pettier cell is the correct size but I think squishing mine in as it was slightly too big probably killed it. 2007 Range Rover L322 TDV8 Vogue SE (Rimini Red)

Post #572119 7th Nov 2020 8:23pm
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Discotigger



Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Cumbria
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

Just replaced my seat back unit, got a nice toasty back and bum now, woohoo!
Bit puzzled though as there is absolutely no sign of damage to the plastic duct housing, the fan runs fine and when on cooling it works perfectly. I switched it on to heat with only the back unit lit on the button and it runs when on heating, but only blows cold air out. Thought I may have to replace the seat base as well, as when on back heating only apart from blowing out cold air the IID tool didn't register any faults, but if I then switched on the base heating using the button it ran for about 10 seconds then cut out totally and a fault was flashed up. As soon as I put the new back unit in and ran it, all was well, both back and seat base gets warm. Strange.

Post #573652 21st Nov 2020 3:21pm
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Downhillerffrr



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I’ve established that my drivers seat back blower is faulty by swapping it with the passenger one. Only difference I can see is that the faulty one has darker coloured copper in the unit. Works fine on cold. Just on hit it cuts out after 20 secs. The faulty one also had a split in the plastic hose between the filter and the unit but sealing that didn’t fix it. Maybe the unit burned out in some way, due to the split. Fault code was B1231 -7A (2C) Right Seat mechanical failure - fluid leak or seal failure Constantly cleared the fault but that kept coming back.

Post #573952 24th Nov 2020 7:44pm
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Downhillerffrr



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I didn’t need to remove the seats to get the seat backs off. I moved the side trims away by removing a few screws from the side trim undersides the manipulated the seat back down the way whilst unclipping the bottoms of the seat back from the seat

Post #573962 24th Nov 2020 9:00pm
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Downhillerffrr



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That picture show the heater blowers hanging out of the back of the seats after I removed the three screws and the two zip ties holding it to the seat frame

Post #573964 24th Nov 2020 9:05pm
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Fox889



Member Since: 04 Jun 2019
Location: Bury St Edmunds. Suffolk
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

Thanks to Downhill & his thread, this spurned me into action & removed the back heater unit. Nowhere near as complicated as I thought it was, no need to remove the complete seat. Motor was out inside 30 mins which I thought was pretty good for a ham-fisted 63 year old! Just need to order a new one from Duckworths & all being well, a warm posterior........providing the reason for seat base failure was this.............


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 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
BMW R1200GS
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

Post #574045 25th Nov 2020 1:44pm
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Fox889



Member Since: 04 Jun 2019
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

Who's got a nice warm bum & back?
Fitted the new rear heater unit this morning, plugged her in & heated drivers seat base & back........lovely.
I was concerned about doing the job, but, having read so much on here decided to give it a go. It wasn't that bad, really.
Thanks to Rob at Duckworth Parts for his help, super quick postage & a very impressive cost for the part, £276.14 all in.


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 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
BMW R1200GS
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

Post #574755 1st Dec 2020 1:36pm
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Pikey



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If the driver and passenger seat back units are identical, I might swap them over - then my wife can have a cold arse rather than me Laughing Pikey by name, not by nature Smile

Post #574765 1st Dec 2020 2:41pm
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JNC



Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Nara Bronze

Just to piggy back off this.
Earlier this year I repaired the ducting in the seat back of mine.
The base worked fine but the back never got warm. The repair worked perfect.

Now weekend just gone it’s all stopped working.
Did some investigation today and it powers off after 30 seconds or so.
Error code - B1231 7A

Would I be right in thinking this is the base unit at fault now?

Post #574810 1st Dec 2020 10:26pm
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Fox889



Member Since: 04 Jun 2019
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

JNC:
B1231-7A [Right seat fluid leak or seal failure].
I had this on my drivers side seat, no heat from the base nor back, and, like JNC if you stick your ear near the base of the seat, the fan ran for 20-30 secs then stopped.
It was a bit of a gamble changing just the heater unit on the back of the seat, but consensus of opinion says that's the one that normally plays up.
There is a similar heater unit underneath the base of the seat but there's little evidence on here that this plays up.
Finicky things these RR seats and pardon the pun.....a right pain in the arse!
Hope this helps. 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
BMW R1200GS
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

Post #574822 2nd Dec 2020 9:21am
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JNC



Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Nara Bronze

I thought there was a different fault code for the seat back part?
I have previously repaired the seat back ducting as only the base was getting hot.

But now there is nothing, it powers off after 30 seconds.

Post #574828 2nd Dec 2020 10:20am
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Fox889



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

When the LR Indy put his Autologic Code reader on her, it came up with this:

B122F-28 Right seat back. Component or system is over temperature
B1230-98 Left seat back Component or system is over temperature
B1231-7A Right seat. Fluid leak or seal failure

The last code omits the word 'back' so I wonder if that just refers to the 'base'?
I have to confess I haven't tried the new motor on 'cool' yet, to be honest, I don't think I'll use it so not bothered either way, it was the heated bit I wanted to cure.
There is another heated motor under the base, slightly cheaper by a few pounds.

Again, hope this helps. 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
BMW R1200GS
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

Post #574831 2nd Dec 2020 10:46am
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GGDR



Member Since: 26 Nov 2016
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I've done a lot of work to get faulty back or base units working to not avail.
I plumped for several replacements and this tends to sort the error codes best!!
I'm loving the warmers as this weather starts to turn, don't delay!

There is one story I've read (is it above somewhere?) of a guy repairing his with an alternate and cheaper unit, have a search.

. Cheers, Greg
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JNC



Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Nara Bronze

I have found someone selling just the peltier part on eBay. About £70 imported.
Can’t believe there isn’t another source for these.

Post #574906 3rd Dec 2020 12:13am
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GGDR



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

sure but see up a page or so - member michaelpalmer7 found one, fitted it and it didn't work.

tried a Ford US unit myself (from a Mustang) and it didn't work
. Cheers, Greg
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