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Abacus405



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End of 3G

According to The Times, the 3G networks are being switched off, where does that leave those of us with only 3G modems in our cars?

What won’t we be able to do? What can we do to mitigate the problems?

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Gremlin500



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I would have thought you just swap the SIM for another one?
The SIM in my car is a 5G EE SIM.
It’s the SIM which needs to be 4G or 5G, then you can receive and send data over the network. Thumbs Up “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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He-he… I remember when those mobile comms companies were bidding billions to buy the licenses for the 3G network…and the government trousered about £22billion from the sale… for just a pice of paper allowing the frequency use…

how tech has moved on!
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/200...s.business

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Abacus405



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It’s the modem that’s the problem, not the SIM.

I’ve done a bit of googling and some things we may lose are:

Remote services (I use these most days in winter to warm the car up and it’s useful when I forget to lock it)

Traffic on sat nav - I use CarPlay do not bothered about this

Over the air updates - don’t know if this means the end for these

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Gremlin500 wrote:
I would have thought you just swap the SIM for another one?
The SIM in my car is a 5G EE SIM.
It’s the SIM which needs to be 4G or 5G, then you can receive and send data over the network. Thumbs Up

The equipment needs to be 5G capable as well as the SIM . John
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One option would be to use a phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot and connect the vehicle to that - works on my17 vehicles. IIRC the telematics functions use 2G as a fall-back from 3G however that is also been retired by the end of 2033 although no dates for ending 2G services have been published.

3G dates:
Vodafone is starting its switch-off in early 2023
EE plans to start its switch-off in early 2024
Three expects to switch off by the end of 2024.4
Virgin Media (VM)-O2 has not yet announced its planned 3G switch-off date.

Lots more detail here - https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf...ch-off.pdf

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Gremlin500



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Yes you guys are right, I made a totally wrong assumption there, sorry! Embarassed

Anyway to help the uneducated (like me) I did a bit more looking into it and found this informative article by Which?:

https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/the-u...8ou1e1RXJA

Looks like we will have to use our phones & bluetooth in the future. On a USA website article (Driver) Land Rover was among manufacturers who didn’t respond to their survey on what plans they had to update or adapt vehicles to use 4G or 5G retrospectively. Good old JLR being consistent again. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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More info here

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic50862.html?highlight=3g 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

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Gremlin500



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Confused

Well, I don't mind admitting that I'm still confused Big Cry
How do you tell what does what with respect to the connectivity?
i.e. what relies on the SIM card, what relies on the modem, and what is done with wi-fi, and what is done with bluetooth, whether with the car connecting to terrestrial WiFi, or the car acting as a Wi-Fi hotspot, or OTA updates, etc?

Great if someone can produce an idiots' guide Wink

Also, how to tell what hardware/compatibility any given vehicle is fitted with, e.g. my MY17 L405 has the updated Nav, so will it be 4G compatible? Bow down

Sorry, but I'm clueless, it's all smoke & mirrors to me.... Big Cry “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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Arch Stanton



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my sim modem thing doesn't seem toward anyway so no loss to me First time FFRR owner

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Gremlin500



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I found this, which helped me a lot:

https://www.landrover.co.uk/ownership/inco...-faqs.html “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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Gremlin500



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Would something like this be of any use, assuming you could just leave it plugged in out of sight in the car?

https://amzn.eu/d/10Zt8i6

There seem to be LTE devices which plug into the OBD port as well, not sure if these would be compatible with JLR systems, but I suppose when this becomes a huge problem, somebody will solve it, if they haven’t already? Confused “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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Noticed mine doesn't show 3G anymore just the 2G 'Edge'. Seems to do the online routing okay but a bit of a rip off paying EE for a 5G service.. 2017 Range Rover Vogue V6 Diesel
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Update on 3G switch off dates:

Vodafone switch-off planned completion January 2024.
EE switch-off commenced January 2024, planned completion March 2024
Three plans to commence switch-off in April 2024 with completion by the end of 2024.
O2 planning to switch-off in 2025.

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Arch Stanton



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so is it worth updating all of the in control options then? What wont work in future? Mine expire tomorrow. First time FFRR owner

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