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wayneg

Member Since: 05 Jun 2013
Location: South Fremantle, Australia ( ex London )
Posts: 775

2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

Can a L405 be towed

Just watched a video from 4XOverland on youtube about issues with new Defender, one being it cant be towed as handbrake automatically comes on after 10mins. Is this the case with a L405? 2007 TDV8 VSE
2003 TD6 gone.
2002 P38a gone
1999 P38a gone
1997 p38a gone
1993 VSE gone
1992 VSE gone
1966 Series 2a with V8 conversion gone

7th Sep 2023 7:57am

Tinman

Member Since: 22 Mar 2017
Location: kent
Posts: 1133

2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Silicon Silver

He is right the electric brake will come on if it's not put in 'N' before the engine is turned off.
I found that out on my L322 2012 2017 SDV8 4.4 silicon silver AB
2012 TDV8 4.4 Stornaway Grey AB
2011 TDV8 4.4 Buckingham Blue
2012 VW V6 3.0 Tougreg

7th Sep 2023 8:37am

Kot

Member Since: 10 Mar 2021
Location: broadland
Posts: 1097

Re: Can a L405 be towed

wayneg wrote:
Just watched a video from 4XOverland on youtube about issues with new Defender, one being it cant be towed as handbrake automatically comes on after 10mins. Is this the case with a L405?

Recovery L405 CAUTIONS:

Make sure the vehicle recovery and/or transportation is carried out by suitably qualified personnel, and the vehicle is secured correctly.

The recovery agent must activate the transmission park release before recovery commences. Failure to
activate the transmission park release can result in serious transmission damage.
The vehicle should not be towed on all four wheels and should not be recovered with the front or rear
wheels suspended. Doing so can result in serious transmission damage.
The method for recovery and/or transportation of the vehicle is on a transporter or trailer designed for that purpose.

WARNING:
Make sure that the vehicle is secured with wheel chocks, then apply the Electric Parking Brake (EPB) or
firmly press the brake pedal. Two people are required for this procedure. Failure to do so can result in
unexpected movement of the vehicle, causing serious injury or death.
When recovering the vehicle, it is essential that the transmission park release mechanism is activated. Activating the
transmission park release mechanism locks the transmission in Neutral (N) and prevents the transmission from
automatically selecting Park (P). 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

7th Sep 2023 8:44am

wayneg

Member Since: 05 Jun 2013
Location: South Fremantle, Australia ( ex London )
Posts: 775

As the man says its unbelievable that an "offroad" vehicle cannot be towed out of an offroad situation.
So on the l405 where is the Transmission park release and would putting the handbrake into service mode via diagnostics stop it coming on?
Remember on the P38`s you just had to put in a fuse, 11 from memory. 2007 TDV8 VSE
2003 TD6 gone.
2002 P38a gone
1999 P38a gone
1997 p38a gone
1993 VSE gone
1992 VSE gone
1966 Series 2a with V8 conversion gone

Last edited by wayneg on 7th Sep 2023 10:10am. Edited 1 time in total

7th Sep 2023 10:03am

James W

Member Since: 29 Nov 2009
Location: Wirral
Posts: 284

2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Siberian Silver

You can tow it (recover it from an off road situation) as long as the engine is running though, surely? in which case the vehicle would presumably be in gear (forward or reverse) ready to try and move under its own steam FFRR SDV8 Autobiography

7th Sep 2023 10:10am

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 04 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16171

2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

You could simply pull the gearbox neutral release and with the handbrake in the off position, unplug the handbrake motors behind the rear calliper's...

7th Sep 2023 10:11am

GraemeS

Member Since: 07 Mar 2015
Location: Wagga area
Posts: 2312

2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

Tinman wrote:
He is right the electric brake will come on if it's not put in 'N' before the engine is turned off.
I found that out on my L322 2012

Mine doesn't automatically apply the EPB. It's a CCF option that isn't enabled on mine.

7th Sep 2023 10:13am

caymanblack

Member Since: 08 Dec 2015
Location: DEVON
Posts: 1057

2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Carpathian Grey

I leave mine in the garage with the HB off, I hold the park Brake lever down until I switch the engine off and this keeps it off.
overfinch modified

7th Sep 2023 10:32am

Philip

Member Since: 05 Jan 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 2516

2019 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Aintree Green

wayneg wrote:
As the man says its unbelievable that an "offroad" vehicle cannot be towed out of an offroad situation

If you pull the park release, I can't see that it's much different from any other automatic 4x4 - if you flat-tow it for any distance with the props connected, you'll destroy the gearbox anyway.

7th Sep 2023 2:07pm

GrandadRob

Member Since: 01 Jul 2021
Location: North Herefordshire
Posts: 191

I always leave mine in the garage, in park. The handbrake is off. Is this correct. My garage is level. 2013 SDV8 4.4 SE Luxor.
1960 Series 2 88 inch diesel.
1955 Series 1 86 inch petrol.

7th Sep 2023 2:09pm

Philip

Member Since: 05 Jan 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 2516

Also, that 4xoverland bloke has a massive chip. Most odd.

7th Sep 2023 2:22pm

Kot

Member Since: 10 Mar 2021
Location: broadland
Posts: 1097

Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:
You could simply pull the gearbox neutral release and with the handbrake in the off position, unplug the handbrake motors behind the rear calliper's...

Or you could follow the manual

EPB CAUTION:
This procedure requires the vehicle in the Park or Neutral position, with the ignition turned ON (the engine
must be OFF) and the parking brake system released.
NOTE:
This procedure allows the parking brake to be released when recovering the vehicle.
Activation
1 Press and hold the parking brake switch in the release position.
2 Wait 2 seconds.
3 Press and hold the accelerator pedal in the wide open throttle position.
4 Wait 2 seconds.
NOTE:
5 An audible noise will be heard to confirm that the parking brake has been released in Service Mode.
Turn the ignition Off and back On immediately.

6 Release the accelerator pedal and release the parking brake switch to the neutral position

Deactivation
CAUTIONS:
This procedure requires the vehicle in the Park or Neutral position, with the ignition turned ON (the engine
must be OFF) and the parking brake system in Service Mode.
Once the vehicle has been recovered, the Service Mode must be cancelled.
NOTES:
If this process is followed, new electronic park brake actuator O-ring seals are required.
To be carried out in the event that the vehicle has no electrical power. 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

7th Sep 2023 4:42pm

Andy S

Member Since: 16 Jun 2013
Location: Sevenoaks
Posts: 953

2015 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Aintree Green

On a shooting trip a while back, I had to be towed out (wet grass, adverse slope and road tyres…..). The front valance was removed, a rope attached to the towing eye and then attached to the gamekeeper’s Defender. Engine running in my car, left in neutral and pulled away. Once on level ground, engaged park, removed rope and proceeded normally (GGS engaged, low range just to be sure.).

7th Sep 2023 4:48pm

Salsbury

Member Since: 19 Jun 2022
Location: Alberta
Posts: 82

Philip wrote:
Also, that 4xoverland bloke has a massive chip. Most odd.

Full of it, he is.

30th Sep 2023 6:19pm

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