Hello all,

Just trying to justify the running costs of my 2012 4.4TDV8

I only keep it to tow a 1500Kg Caravan once or twice a year (wouldn't want to tow it with anything else). The previous owner used a 1.7Tdi Vectra. That and Our Youngest Daughters use it when they visit.

Anyway..........

Service at JLR, £750

Independent I take it to, Circa £400 for an A Service

Just had some quotes in for.........from same Independent Garage

ZF 8 Speed Gearbox Service £1,080
New Oil Cooler £975

All Seems a bit too High to me !

We all need to make a living and cover costs, but............What do you think ?

You could get these jobs done a bit cheaper but it's still going to be an expensive car to run.
Gearbox service using ZF fluid can be replaced by a 'mega flush' at about 1/2th price but it won't be using ZF fluid or include a filter change.
Oil cooler is about £200 for a pattern part + fitting( free if you DIY). 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Gearbox service I’d go with Bodsy on here, never used him but everyone seems mega happy with his service & price, plus, he comes to you. Half the price you’ve been quoted I believe.
Oil cooler is 4.5hrs labour alone plus the cooler itself, either OEM or Nissen, think my genuine cooler fitted was circa £700 two years ago. You can get away with just the gaskets I believe but that’s up to you.
Hope this helps. 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
BMW R1200GS
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

Fatties really hate not being used, IMHO it's the worse thing you can do, just keeping one as a weekend car is bad enough but to only use one a few times a year is asking for all sorts of trouble...

Those prices seem very high, I'd shop around...  Pete

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There is nothing wrong with only using it occasionaly for bigger trips. Nothing of significance will deteriorate. Worst thing you can do is to use it regularly for short trips. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Bodsy just quoted me £340 foe gearbox megaflush and £160 for diffs/transfer case.

Service by specialist is about £400 as already mentioned.

It’s the road tax at £685 that grates on me.

It was just under £1000 for my oil cooler change but that was in 2016 and it needed lots of flushing out.

We are going away next weekend, and if it wasn’t for that I’m not sure I’d be doing much more than 2000 miles in 12 months. Can’t think of anything that I’d rather have…. That I can afford anyway 🤣.

My Dad has just paid £114 for a rubber hose for his Evoque… cars are pretty expensive nowadays….. not sure the other brands are any cheaper…..

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

If you’re really using it that little, I’d look at selling it and just hiring a car for the trips. Would possibly work out cheaper once tax and insurance are considered too!

thanks for the replies.

All taken on-board.

Car has travelled 64,000 miles and gearbox can wait I guess, just have to stomach the oil cooler for now.

I have run many Japanese cars , 1/2 or less the engine power towing 1.5 ton and almost trouble free for up-to 250,000 miles.

Thanks again from Dusseldorf in our utterly reliable 23 year old Euro III Diesel Ducato Motorhome.

After owning 3 Much newer and brand new Mercedes that cost a rocking fortune to run and utterly unreliable as were the dealers.

The oil cooler is “just one of those things” that happens to these girls, get it changed & forget. There’ll be something else that comes along to be changed shortly🤣 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
BMW R1200GS
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

Gearbox: use Bodsy who is mobile out of Telford. Used him twice now on my drive. Absolute legend.
Fraction of that price quoted. He's a busy guy. Why? Because he's good at what he does so book well in advance

Contact him on 07770 638023
 Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Buy the car at 125000km and make big service:

Oil + filter: 100€ (DIY)
Transfer case: 30€ (DIY)
Diffs: 50€ (DIY)
Steering fluid: 30€ (DIY)
Brake fluid: 10€ (DIY)
Air filter: 10€ (DIY)
Fuel filter: 90€ (DIY)
Fit new Webasto: 1100€ (DIY)
Gearbox megaflush: 500€ (in service)
Front and rear suspension repair: 830€ (in service)
Turbo drain mode: 1100€ (in service)
Battery charger installation: 190€ (DIY)
Wooden steering wheel (used): 400€ (DIY)
Coolant hoses replace: 150€ (in service)
Front defferential sealing replace: 130€ (in service)
P040D temp. sensor 190€ (DIY)
New fog lights: 30€ (DIY)
Led interior lights: 50€ (DIY)
GPS antenna (used): 15€ (DIY)

Total: 5000€ in first half year.
So yes, its not cheap, and most of things DIY. Some parts was not nacessary of course, like steering wheel etc, but still, parts are expensive.

After that 2 years +30 000km without any cost (one oil change only 100€). And probably drive more and more, dont see any faults or parts need to be replaced at the moment.

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After that 2 years +30 000km without any cost (one oil change only 100€)

 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

DrRob wrote:

Gearbox: use Bodsy who is mobile out of Telford. Used him twice now on my drive. Absolute legend.
Fraction of that price quoted. He's a busy guy. Why? Because he's good at what he does so book well in advance

Contact him on 07770 638023

thanks everyone.

I have been in recovery for 12 weeks so not had the time to reply.

JayGee wrote:

You could get these jobs done a bit cheaper but it's still going to be an expensive car to run.
Gearbox service using ZF fluid can be replaced by a 'mega flush' at about 1/2th price but it won't be using ZF fluid or include a filter change.
Oil cooler is about £200 for a pattern part + fitting( free if you DIY).