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D3fin4

Member Since: 30 Oct 2023
Location: Gold Coast
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Brake hold purpose?

my brake "hold" was enabled by default, and seemed to add a few extra jolts when coming to a stop and starting again. so i disabled it in the settings, thinking it was the same as old 'hill holder' but hill holding is still available without the brake hold option enabled. so now i'm wondering what the purpose of this hold function is?

2nd Dec 2023 7:10am

Autobiography

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Location: UK
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2018 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

So you don’t need to keep your foot on the brake at traffic lights…

2nd Dec 2023 8:34am

D3fin4

Member Since: 30 Oct 2023
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 14

Thanks, I just found this explanation too:
“Hill start assist is focused on preventing rolling when starting on hills, while auto hold is focused on keeping the car stationary during extended stops without requiring the driver to keep their foot on the brake.“
I guess that would be useful in stop/start traffic.
I just thought it felt strange to have an extra jolt when starting from a light.
Now I understand.

2nd Dec 2023 8:42am

Haylands

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I always use the queue assist in heavy traffic, no need to brake at all, car holds itself still, pulls away with the slightest touch on the accelerator.... IMHO one of it's best features... Pete

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2nd Dec 2023 9:15am

D3fin4

Member Since: 30 Oct 2023
Location: Gold Coast
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Oh… I haven’t seen queue assist in settings yet.. will check the guide for this one too. Thanks.

2nd Dec 2023 2:29pm

Haylands

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I guess it could cost you a bumper and headlights to find out if you have it....

Just noticed yours is a 460... pretty sure it will have it or something similar... Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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2nd Dec 2023 8:34pm

p38arover

Member Since: 16 Dec 2015
Location: Western Sydney
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2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

Sounds like the feature that was on my old 1955/56 Jaguar Mark VII auto. It was great, especially when stopped, facing downhill, in traffic. Ron B. VK2OTC
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2nd Dec 2023 11:36pm

Westminster

Member Since: 23 Mar 2017
Location: UK
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Re: Brake hold purpose?

D3fin4 wrote:
my brake "hold" was enabled by default, and seemed to add a few extra jolts when coming to a stop and starting again. so i disabled it in the settings, thinking it was the same as old 'hill holder' but hill holding is still available without the brake hold option enabled. so now i'm wondering what the purpose of this hold function is?

Mine was also enabled and although it was nice at the traffic lights, it made nudging forward in a parking space (after you'd stopped short and Brake Hold had applied itself) a bit of a hairy exercise as you had to accelerate to overcome the brake hold and then quickly brake before you hit the wall.

It is actually not needed anyway, because unlike my 2020 L405, in the L460 if you come to a stop at the lights and press the brake pedal harder than normal, the green HOLD light will come on anyway and you can then remove your foot from the brake ready to accelerate when the lights change.

2nd Jan 2024 6:40pm

Flugplatz

Member Since: 27 Feb 2014
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 75

2014 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Aintree Green

Re: Brake hold purpose?

D3fin4 wrote:
my brake "hold" was enabled by default, and seemed to add a few extra jolts when coming to a stop and starting again. so i disabled it in the settings, thinking it was the same as old 'hill holder' but hill holding is still available without the brake hold option enabled. so now i'm wondering what the purpose of this hold function is?

As with sooo many aspects of JLR tech, the 'hold' function isn't quite up to the job. That you have to configure it via various levels of menu is odd when it's been a std feature of Mercs etc for over 12 years. But the biggest issue is that it doesn't release smoothly enough. If you're parallel parking, say, it feels like you have to extraordinarily gently apply the throttle otherwise the car springs forward once the 'tension' of hold is suddenly released. Other marques do this far better and more intuitively. Calibration of throttle generally is awful (D350) and particularly in the 'hold' function. In this regard, RR product is miles off the quality of Merc/BMW/Porsche etc. Even our 6 year old A160 station car knocks spots off the Rangie. Until Tata is replaced by a proper automotive parent with deeper pockets and less of the "that'll do" mentality, we grin and bear it. Shame, as the core product idea of a Rangie is still unsurpassed by any of the competition.

FP

7th Apr 2024 8:20pm

Phil.

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2019 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

That’s my experience too which is why the hold function is turned off permanently. It then holds well at junctions and on inclines. I guess the only time worth using the hold function is when towing something heavy? MY23 D350 HSE
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8th Apr 2024 6:54am

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