Alot of what was reported is from the company that repaired the car from the repairs they do.

I believe the quote from JLR was well over the top the car was only worth £18k and a replacement battery was quoted £22k, we don't seem to repair anything any more only replace. 2017 SDV8 4.4 silicon silver AB
2012 TDV8 4.4 Stornaway Grey AB
2011 TDV8 4.4 Buckingham Blue
2012 VW V6 3.0 Tougreg

same with EV's where if involved in an accident the insurers write the car off..

we're getting a tesla home battery fitted and as above if it fails then the whole battery unit is replaced with a new one.. ... - .- -.




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When my car was in the repairers they told me they had 8 electric cars of various makes which broke down in flooded roads over the weekend of the last major flood . Everyone was written off!!  All LR cars from 1984
2021.5 Vogue SE D300 Carpathian Grey
2018 Vogue SE British Racing Green GONE

JW911 wrote:

I’m now a month into a 2021 P400 (not e) petrol. It’s giving similar mpg to my previous TDV8 so maybe worth a thought. Straight six as well.

When my car was in the repairers they told me they had 8 electric cars of various makes which broke down in flooded roads over the weekend of the last major flood . Everyone was written off!! Whistle

That's pretty usual for any flooded car A few years ago I wrote off a 2 week old S class Mercedes with about 400miles on the clock. Water was just above the centre of the wheels. Mercedes told me the computers are low down& were fried. No engine damage. It cut out just as I decided to reverse out. Did not try to restart. A few months later I was contacted by a garage asking if I still had the second key. They said they had bought it & were putting it back on the road

andyleeds wrote:

JW911 wrote:

I’m now a month into a 2021 P400 (not e) petrol. It’s giving similar mpg to my previous TDV8 so maybe worth a thought. Straight six as well.

are you saying that the p400 is giving you about the same mpg / economy as your old 4.4 tdv8? that sounds ver y good and arguably cheaper to run as petrol being cheaper?

stan wrote:

we're getting a tesla home battery fitted and as above if it fails then the whole battery unit is replaced with a new one..

Chalky wrote:

When my car was in the repairers they told me they had 8 electric cars of various makes which broke down in flooded roads over the weekend of the last major flood . Everyone was written off!!

I run an EV van. Hit some debris on the M1 which broke a piece of the lower valance.

A few hours later driving in a shower the dash lit up like a Christmas tree and went into limp mode followed shortly after by complete shut down.

Recovered to nearest main dealer and given 3 possible scenarios.
1, replace main plug £3.5k
2, replace main plug and wiring loom, an additional £1.5k
3, replace main plug, wiring loom and battery pack for an additional £22k

Van was less than a year old and had covered 15k miles and was now in write off territory due to a small piece of trim being broken. Bad design to say the least. I was looking forward to the conversation with my insurance company and explaining could they give me £25k for a small piece of broken trim

Van came with a 5 year warranty that wouldn’t cover it due to ‘flood damage’ which should read as driving on a slightly moist road

In the end the main plug was ‘unplugged’ and left to dry out for a few days. It was then put back together and several months and 10k miles later it runs fine

If only Range Rovers were so easy to repair

I’ve been giving serious thought to a P400e as it would suit our needs perfectly, lots of short journeys with a few longer trips every so often.

Despite the hiccup with my van, I currently spend between £15 and £20 a week on charging it as opposed to the £90 to £100 I used to spend on diesel.

That’s quite a saving and I’ll probably renew my van once more before retirement and that will definitely be another EV.

lucky result with the drying out of the plug , but how many would figure that out and have the EV written off.... ... - .- -.




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Not wishing to be a kill-joy but..... as a long time LR owner - see profile list....
This thread may interest you if you are still considering Land Rover EV

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic72518.html

If you haven't got time the gist is... only do it if,

*You have A LOT of spare cash - being a LR owner can mean deep, deep, deep pockets! Service costs alone would buy a cheap runaround. Then there are replacement tyres @ £200, LR replacement parts seem comparable to faberge eggs in price but have to be used to keep warranty valid, insurance (if you can get it - check as my Discovery 5 insurers would not even quote for FFRR and I'm not in a big city, I'm in the far flung farming frozen north!) not to mention 'In control app' at £250 a year - it classes as a tracker so brings insurance down!
*you have a spare car while you wait for parts to arrive and experienced EV workshops to have availabiity
*you have a home charger - forecourt prices are comparable to unleaded and time consuming > Oh and you may get a cheaper EV rate from your supplier but they bump up the daily/overnight standing charge to compensate.

I'm not saying don't do it - I actually quite like mine and the average mpg (with the new EV battery= £10k+) is about 55mpg and on some runs it approaches 200mpg - according to in control anyway!!! So I fool myself I've saved money!!!!

I'm just saying make sure you can afford to get it fixed IF (and it is an IF) its battery dies. LR will not help AT ALL unless there is a full dealer based service history (even tho' its not a serviceable part) or your car is more than 6 years old or done more than 60k, which in my humble opinion is - a disgraceful way to treat customers of £100k vehicles.

My personal feeling is that whilst LR makes some desirable prestige cars, many people buy them not realising they will be paying prestige prices to keep them on the road and it comes as a shock when they are affected - its doubly so for the EV variants. NOTE: All EV batteries are £1000s not just JLR.

Anyway, my two-penneth! 2023 - July 2024 Brown Discovery 5 HSE
2017-2019 White Discovery 4 HSE
2015-2017 Phoenix Orange Discovery Sport HSE, Black Pack, black headlining
2013-2015 Black Evoque Pure Tech
2012-2013 Black Discovery 4 XS
2006-2012 Silver Discovery 3 SE
2003-2006 Yellow Freelander - Kalahari
1997-2000 Silver Freelander SE Station Wagon

Further to my above, I did two decent motorway runs today around the speed limit. Indicating 31.5 mpg so around 29 outside LR world. I’ll take that for a big supercharged petrol.

Wouldn’t touch a P400e with a barge pole. You can do a lot of miles for £22k. 😉 2021 3.0 P400 Vogue
2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster - gone!
2007 3.6 TDV8 Vogue - gone!
2003 4.4 V8 HSE (LPG) - gone!
2018 F-Pace 25t Portfolio
1974 LR Series III Lightweight FFR
2014 BMW 640i Gran Coupe

I have a 21 P400e. The battery range is laughable, but the overall MPG sits at 48mpg (+electricity). On a 250mile run the car averaged 32mpg which is not bad. The hybrid tech works fine and most of the time you don’t know whether the engine is running. Sometimes the generator must be working to charge the EV battery because then you do notice the engine. Same goes for full acceleration, it’s a bit rough but brisk.
The car did have a broke PTC heater, so watch for this when bought used. Also check for leaks from the aircon at rear arch. Otherwise a really serene and quiet car - as you would expect. I’d get another one, that said 6 cylinders would be even nicer, but the new models are still due too much depreciation.

a pal had the P400e hybrid and had no end of problems. He got rid of it at a big loss in the end. It had alternator and recharge issues which meant it was in the Stealers very few months.

I have a 2021 Range Rover fifty p400e. done 70k miles with no problems. electric range in summer about 25 and winter about 19. The hybrid system is superb and you don't know when the engine is running and not. For a short commute car its perfect in ev mode. Ive still got a years warranty left and the ev battery is warranted till 100k miles.
Ive seen the ev batteries advertised for insurance write off cars for about £1800 so with fitting from your local garage they can be replaced at a smallish cost compared to the £20k from a dealer. My only gripe is that servicing costs are high. They wanted £1600 for the 63k mile service and quoted £2000 for the 84k mile service. Needless to say I went elsewhere.
Just as an aside I tried JLR insurance again this year as they previously refused and it was the cheapest price yet so worth a revisit.
Would I like a 3.0l hybrid with a much bigger battery. Definitely, but ill wait till the prices have substantially reduced.

is the ev warranty standard on LR cars of that age do you know? I had written off the hybrid version as I thought the warranty was less but maybe that was on older cars?