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fisha



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Lowering the subframe slightly - propshaft off ?

So looking at the logistics of doing the ACE pipework. Haylands took the full subframe off ( here ) whilst in this video, the subframe was partly lowered and hanging from the unwound bolts.

This latter method i think suit me better in terms of trying to fit the pipes, but if I was doing that, would I have remove the propshaft ? Or would there be enough play if I undid the centre support bearing ?

Just trying to plan it all out in advance at the moment. V8 or else ...

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I would think there is enough room for the prop to drop some amount, if it's enough to change the pipes, that's a suck it and see job... Thumbs Up Pete
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If you can't remove it from the rear diff, remove it from the transfer box end and drop the shaft with the subframe/diff assy Thumbs Up

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fisha



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Thanks chaps, like you say, I’ll just wing it. V8 or else ...

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So, I’ve reached the point of : you can undo the subframe bolts and re thread them back in a few turns, and drop the subframe to hang on them without having to remove the prop. You do need to undo the middle bearing support though

My clean and tidy garage setup … no lifts here!



Tomorrows job is to see if this enough space to feed the pipes through:

 V8 or else ...

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If it isn't then take out the nearside bolts and drop it on a jack a bit more that side, just be careful and don't catch anything... Thumbs Up Pete
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2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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fisha



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Oh, good idea. V8 or else ...

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fisha



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Just to feed back, this worked and worked very well. New rear ace pipes installed and rear coolant cross over coolant metal pipes now replaced with a single run of hose.

When it’s all done, I’ll do a different thread with some observations of doing the ace pipe job on the ground without a lift. V8 or else ...

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Top job, should be sorted for a few years now... Thumbs Up Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Did my rear ACE pipes With the fuel tank in position and by only dropping the rear subframe a couple of inches, leaving it hanging on a few threads like you did. I did this with the car on a ramp though!

Absolutely no way I could figure out or handle doing it with the car on the floor. Well done! Shocked

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fisha



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Edited to add a link to the thread which talks about doing the pipes yourself for anyone reading these threads in the future:

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic71213.html V8 or else ...

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Range Rover Sport 2010 Supercharged rear ACE leaking

Dear all,

I own a Range Rover Sport 2010 Supercharged 5.0 V8 since 2022 (I am the 3rd owner).
I bought the car with a slight leak on the rear ACE Bar but I haven’t had any issues with it so far… (Touch wood…! Smile)

I am keen to keep the vehicle as I just love it. It’s used as a weekends car and once a year we drive to Spain and back.

I have brought the car to a Range Rover specialist in Kent recommended by a good friend of mine that is mechanic.
They advised that some of the parts to replace the rear ACE bar are back ordered from Range Rover without an ETA for those… Therefore they said that once the rear ACE bar goes that gets vehicles
out of the road unfortunately…
They also advised that pipes are highly corroded and they were unsure if new pipes will easily go in… They also mentioned that as per their previous experience Valve block might also have to be replace and if you got that far and half of the car it’s dismantled you might as well check front ACE bar and pipes and replace them at the same time… So the job gets bigger and bigger…

The car also was diagnosed with the below issues on it’s last health check carried out by the same Range Rover Specialist on December 2024 which I am also keen to get resolved apart from the AC leak which I think I could live without it in the UK.

Drive Shaft Boots (CV, if Required)
NSF outer cv boot split- we may not be able to release the driveshaft from the hub and this repair could end needing complete driveshafts and hubs

Suspension (damage/Leaks/etc)
OSF Drop link boot split

Rear ACE bar is leaking and pipes are very corroded pipes- they may not release from the bar itself and then would require replacement and valve blocks-
However if more work is needed we cannot get the parts as they are back ordered

Front anti roll bar bushes have some play in- suspect noise from right hand side as no play in any wheel bearings-

Misc
Propshaft bearing is split

Would recommend a deglaze and clean up for the brake pads squeaking as plenty left on them- hard to tell what brand they are however as its worn off- so could be a cheaper material and clean up may not be long term

No undertrays were on the vehicle- just a note

Engine
Vacuum valve on the front of engine is leaking oil quite heavily



I am looking for some advice and help to try and resolve this issue please…

@Haylands, I have seen some amazing restoration and replacement works for ACE pipes that you have posted previously… Would you please be able to assist?

Many thanks,

Jordi

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Haylands



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Try the "Sport" forum, this one is for the full size "proper" Range Rover....

https://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/ Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Jordi R



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Yes sorry. Thumbs Up

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Jordi R



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Thanks Pete.

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