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JamboM3



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United Kingdom 2019 Range Rover Autobiography 2.0 PHEV Indus Silver
Strange key fob behaviour - P400e

New to me P400e, have a strange issue with key fobs. First port of call, I swapped the batteries out for brand new

Car has two keys, one is completely and utterly dead as far as I can see and will not lock/unlock the car. The second key does unlock/lock but sporadically! Sometimes I can stand next to it pressing lock or unlock and nothing happens. Then try keyless and it works, sometimes that won’t work either but then the fob does. If I stand further away (10ft) it won’t register at all.

Also getting smart key not detected messages, happened twice but always starts and does not do this every time.

I’m suspecting 12v batteries are likely, they both look original and car is 6years old now.

Any ideas?

Post #723726 31st Aug 2025 11:48pm
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4RRS



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United Kingdom 2016 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Corris Grey

Are they genuine keys, as in is the pcb as per original or are they Chinese versions and the KVM module has been cloned? I came across a similar problem and it was due to non original keys and a modified KVM. L405 SV Autobiography LWB SDV8, finished in Aston Martin China Grey by ETO division.

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JamboM3



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How can I check?

I didn’t see anything that made me think they weren’t genuine when I swapped batteries

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Are they CR2032’s in the fob?
Buy some new Duracell and polish them with a clean tissue as you remove the plastic film to remove any grease, fingerprints etc.
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I've found that cheap 2032 button batteries just dont seem to last / work as well as the expensive Duracell type brands. Find for small tv remotes etc, but car keys etc seem to be more sensitive to how good the battery is.

Also, does the manual not mention anywhere about holding the keys up to the steering column to re-sync the keys sometimes. . The sensor is around that area I think. V8 or else ...

Post #723743 1st Sep 2025 10:38am
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JamboM3



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I used the sleeping batteries JLR sent, which a mere couple of hours previously worked in the older L405 I had before.

I trickle charged the car yesterday and my CTEK gave me a red light at stage 5, so I’m going to swap the aux battery to see if this sorts it. If not looks like the main starter battery might be past its best. Both appear to be 6 years old so about time anyway.

I had to hold the keys up to the dash to start it when the error was present. I’ll double check the manual on syncing

Incontrol reporting no issues

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JamboM3



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Update.

Fitted a new AUX battery at the weekend, this did not affect the behaviour of the keys, although that was not the only reason I changed it. Whilst fitting this, I had to swing the car round 180 to get in the boot safely. I noted after I had changed the battery that the range was massively improved (or so I thought!) but it looks like there is zero issue with the key from behind the car as the car was the opposite way round. So went across the street and tried it from the front about 10ft away = nothing.

Grabbed a couple of Duracel 3V CR2032 from the supermarket and fitted them tonight, as per iGuide I left the fobs to charge the internal batteries for 10+ mins. This made zero difference and the inability to unlock it from the fob stood infant of the car remains (inc keyless issue).

Weirdly the 3V batteries did resurrect my "dead" key, so that's at least something!

So it looks like the issue is related to the front of the vehicle only, which is odd. Still getting the occasionally smart key not found message so I am now assuming this is related to the Evoque/Velar issue of the receiver up top

Anyone experienced this?

Post #724259 9th Sep 2025 9:37pm
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