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misteralz



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Air Susp. Inactive?

Pinged up earlier after I'd been chucking it about a bit between Braemar and Glenshee... manual says give it 25 minutes for the compressor to cool down. A few hours and 200-odd miles later it's still inoperative. So, what's the damage? Sad 2003 Vogue TD6/1992 Classic 300TDi/2x 1991 Golf GTI/1966 Volkswagen Kombi/2x 1968 Volkswagen Kombi/Probably something I've forgotten...

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mrd1990



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Is it still at the correct height?

I've had this for the last ~15 months, The error will not clear by it's self. I clear the error with All Comms and it comes back usually within 2 weeks, sometimes just a few hours! Goes up and down fine after the error is cleared.

All Comms says it's "reservoir pressure static" .. My guess is a sticky valve somewhere.

Let me know how you get on, if you take it to a garage. Thumbs Up

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Hallo, first change the sensor in the reservoir, but I believe that the pressure power of your compressor is not strong enough for the 13,7 bar that are needed for the correct teamplay of ECU, sensor and compressor..., you have the choice of a new one or a repairing...

Many regards, Meerbusch TDV8 4.4 from 2012, 278.000km like new + Lancia Flavia Coupe 1964 + RRS L494 3.0 SDV6 + C220CDI Convertible 2021

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misteralz



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mrd1990 wrote:
Is it still at the correct height?

I've had this for the last ~15 months, The error will not clear by it's self. I clear the error with All Comms and it comes back usually within 2 weeks, sometimes just a few hours! Goes up and down fine after the error is cleared.

All Comms says it's "reservoir pressure static" .. My guess is a sticky valve somewhere.

Let me know how you get on, if you take it to a garage. Thumbs Up


Think it's sat at access height now. Feels a lot firmer, that's for sure. Was hoping I could disconnect the battery for a bit and that would clear it. Guess not...

Meerbusch, what makes you think it's the compressor? And where would I find the reservoir to change the sensor? I'm guessing it's a pressure sensor you're meaning? 2003 Vogue TD6/1992 Classic 300TDi/2x 1991 Golf GTI/1966 Volkswagen Kombi/2x 1968 Volkswagen Kombi/Probably something I've forgotten...

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Meerbusch



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Hallo misteralz, the reservoir is under the back door on your driver-site (RHD?), you can see the little pressure-sensor with a lamp, you must dismount a plasticbody under the right side ot the car, but be carefull by let out the air, therefore you must open a ventil in the front at the connector. The compressor is at the most 2002-2005 lazy, I had the same problems two years ago, and noone could help me, every week to the dealer for clearing faults, than I bought a used RSW All comms and could find the mistakes step by step. today even the dealers ask me....

Regards, Meerbusch TDV8 4.4 from 2012, 278.000km like new + Lancia Flavia Coupe 1964 + RRS L494 3.0 SDV6 + C220CDI Convertible 2021

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misteralz



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Scotland 2003 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Buckingham Blue

Cool, thanks for that. Not keen on dumping all the air out of it if the compressor is shagged afterall...
Read that the air suspension relies on the brakes for info as well - had the 'check brake pads' message up for a week or so as well. The front inners are nearing the end of their life and I've new ones in stock and was going to replace them tonight. Could this be connected as well or is this just blind hope? 2003 Vogue TD6/1992 Classic 300TDi/2x 1991 Golf GTI/1966 Volkswagen Kombi/2x 1968 Volkswagen Kombi/Probably something I've forgotten...

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Meerbusch



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Blinde hope... Wink TDV8 4.4 from 2012, 278.000km like new + Lancia Flavia Coupe 1964 + RRS L494 3.0 SDV6 + C220CDI Convertible 2021

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misteralz



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Okay. Is there a way of replacing that sensor without dumping all the air in case it is the compressor that's shagged? 2003 Vogue TD6/1992 Classic 300TDi/2x 1991 Golf GTI/1966 Volkswagen Kombi/2x 1968 Volkswagen Kombi/Probably something I've forgotten...

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Nope .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
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misteralz



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Censored . Next question - is there any way of testing the compressor? Don't want to dump all the air and have an undriveable car given it's the only one we have that can cope with all the family duties. 2003 Vogue TD6/1992 Classic 300TDi/2x 1991 Golf GTI/1966 Volkswagen Kombi/2x 1968 Volkswagen Kombi/Probably something I've forgotten...

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Meerbusch



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YES, you must disconnect your battery, than disconnect your compressor electric cable under your fifth wheel, and give 12V + and - to red and brown, you will hear him running, than connect your compressorcable, and than your battery again (because, after fitting is no sign in your display: Airsuspens.inactiv)

seen your thread about gearbox-oil: have bought today some filters and 60 liter DexronIII here in Düsseldorf, payed alltogether for flushing three 5L40E gearboxes 420 Euros : 3 = 140 Euros pro car, = 115 GBP...

Regards from germany

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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Epsom Green

I changed my pressure sensor last winter, when removed it doesn’t drop the air out of the bags in each corner only out of the reservoir due to the non return valve in the valve block front and rear, not sure this helps to test the compressor though

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misteralz



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Helpful posts both, thank you. Meerbusch, are you saying that disconnecting the battery and reconnecting it will clear the fault in the dash display? Because I think I've found the problem - one of the little plastic arms on the height sensor connected to the driver's side front wishbone had snapped. I'll cable tie it back together for now... Laughing 2003 Vogue TD6/1992 Classic 300TDi/2x 1991 Golf GTI/1966 Volkswagen Kombi/2x 1968 Volkswagen Kombi/Probably something I've forgotten...

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Snapped sensor arm on mine to.Got one from Dan and fitted this weekend - but message still on the dash Sad

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Meerbusch



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You can only clear the faults with GAP, RSW allComms or at the BMW or Landrover Dealer. The disconnecting of the battery is only BEFORE working at the suspension, because after disconnecting electric-parts with cables, you have the problem of the messages, with disconnected battery the system don´t notice any repairs or changes. (Oh my english...)

regards, Uli TDV8 4.4 from 2012, 278.000km like new + Lancia Flavia Coupe 1964 + RRS L494 3.0 SDV6 + C220CDI Convertible 2021

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