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Here’s one, but there are possibly more.
Mike
l https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic51227.html G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Shaun wrote:

Can anybody identify the heat shield (and part no) in this last picture of Shaun’s write up? I have spent most of last night and today trying to find it, the only thing that vaguely matches the description and location is LR022797 but the shape and orientation don’t seem to be anything like what is shown in a Shaun’s picture.



LR022797 Primary turbo heat shield


Thanks in advance, trying to eliminate a burning smell since replacing the starter. Noticed that this shield was not present. 2012 4.4TDV8 AB
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2016 Mercedes C350e
2003 TD6 Vogue
2010 Alpina D3 BT
2005 Audi A4 2.0TDi SLine
1973 Series IIa
2001 BMW 320
1996 Audi A4 1.6

Baltic Blue wrote:

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic50836.html

Here’s one, but there are possibly more.
Mike
l https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic51227.html

Just replaced mine on my 4.4 TDV8, just a couple of extra notes
The Solenoid has to be facing the rear of the car to get it out so turn starter 180 degrees then twist.
Anti roll bar has to be down so jack car from off road height and put on axle stands to give max amount of room.

I took my old one apart and the input contact is covered in carbon, no obvious damage so I might clean and put unit of shelf ready for next change in 7 years !

Time for Job around two hours.

(Also cleaned engine subframe and painted with Hammetite while it was up on stands

Roger

My 2012 4.4 TDV8 is in right now for fitting of it's new battery however on the way here, I had to stop off ajd found it wouldn't start first time when I had to move off again. I got the clicking. On try 3 or 4 it fired up and off I went. So search here and found threads talking about starter motors...

Did everyone go for the Denso? Is that the same make as LR use? As I see lots of other brands online too for a range of prices. For example...
https://www.lrdirect.com/LR032541-Starter-Motor/

I went for Denso one from Advanced Factors who are conveniently around the corner from where i work

Roger L322 4,4 TDV8
Freelander 2 sold
Honda Transalp
Sunbeam S7 deluxe (in bits)
Sunbeam S8 (restoring)

The Denso one is good.
If you get it from Opie oils don’t forget to claim 10% forum discount using code FULLFATT.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Thanks for the replies. I figured Denso was the one to go for - thanks for the forum discount code Mike!

Markin - the link you sent seems interesting. COuldn't tell from that whether they were offering to rebuild my motor or provide me with a rebuilt motor but seemed to suggest next day delivery, which isn't much time to wait at all! I shot them a mail anyway as curious to see what they come back with

The new battery is in now, so will see how everything performs. Hopefully that was the culprit and on further action needed!

Where is the starter motor relay?

Ive just replaced my starter on 2012 4.4tdv8, I had the intermittent click with no start issue... was able to get the starter reconditioned for £95 from place in Brum.

Just a couple of points to add I was able to remove the starter with only moving the heat shield, I didn't remove the wheel at all I literally put suspension to off road and then removed the earth off battery. I put scissor jack under drivers side for safety and then able to undo the heat shield and remove the wires to the starter, then just remove the two bolts holding the starter, then drops out through the bottom, it is a very very tight fit but I don't see how it helps in anyway to take it out the side with wheel removal, its actually a very simple job just very fiddly especially doing it on the driveway, but is 100% doable in an evening I got the stater out and back in within 24hrs.

Thanks to this guide and the other write ups I am slowly but surely getting my one up and running properly

The relay is part of the starter, theoretically you could fit a new remote relay and bypass the one on the starter but a lot easier just to replace the original. 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

Just had a new Denso fitted to mine after getting a few dodgy starts. Made an immediate difference.
£422 supply and fit with vat. Happy with that
Part number DSN1207 for reference 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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I changed the starter on a 4.4 TDV8 at the weekend and there was no way I could get it out around the anti roll bar unless disconnected.

The car was a total non start so I could not change the ride height from standard. I jacked up both sides at the front so the wheels were off the ground and then undid the drop links where they attach to the anti roll bar. I could then hold the anti roll bar down on the drivers side with a pry bar to get enough space.

Not a bad job to do to be honest

Great thread.
I have the Click Click sometimes when starting normally when very cold.
I have charged the battery and it has improved but will change the starter when the other jobs are done.
Good to know if you get in off road height you can pull from the bottom 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

My advice is don't delay doing this. This car went from doing it occasionally but always starting on the second try to being completely dead very quickly!