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holidaychicken

Member Since: 06 Nov 2013
Location: Kent
Posts: 1086

2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

The Rev counter bounce is a good indicator but only a slight fluctuation

30th Oct 2016 1:01am

Xray charlie

Member Since: 22 Jul 2016
Location: Derby
Posts: 48

2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Giverny Green

I just read this thread and have a dilemma, my fatty has just hit 120k and has all the classic TC symptoms so my question is this. Do I go to the trouble of removing the box and replacing the TC which leaves me with transmission that's done all those miles or put up with it for now and keep saving the £ for a fully reconditioned system when it eventually breaks down?

3rd Nov 2016 5:08pm

ohuntsman

Member Since: 21 Mar 2016
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 340

2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

I just got a quote of £197 + VAT to recondition the torque converter.

Everyone is saying it should sound like driving over a cattle grid but I ring that it sounds a lot more subtle than that. And it is intermittent??

How much is a full re condition?

3rd Nov 2016 6:47pm

holidaychicken

Member Since: 06 Nov 2013
Location: Kent
Posts: 1086

Xray charlie wrote:
I just read this thread and have a dilemma, my fatty has just hit 120k and has all the classic TC symptoms so my question is this. Do I go to the trouble of removing the box and replacing the TC which leaves me with transmission that's done all those miles or put up with it for now and keep saving the £ for a fully reconditioned system when it eventually breaks down?

Depends how long you intend to keep it, You may be ok with just the TC if you have the petrol 02-05 but I decided that I didn't want to be taking the transmission out again if i could help it so opted for the rebuild that i did myself but if you going to go for the rebuild and you have the petrol 5 speed ZF box then RRPhil sells the recon transmission and they are as good or better than new! and he also sells the recon TC as well as there are only certain companies that can effectively recon the TC.
The diesel TC go due to the failing valve block which if not repaired will cause the TC to fail again at around 10K miles if you are lucky killing the transmission again.

3rd Nov 2016 9:05pm

holidaychicken

Member Since: 06 Nov 2013
Location: Kent
Posts: 1086

ohuntsman wrote:
I just got a quote of £197 + VAT to recondition the torque converter.

Everyone is saying it should sound like driving over a cattle grid but I ring that it sounds a lot more subtle than that. And it is intermittent??

How much is a full re condition?

Who was the quote from and i take it that is just for an exchange unit and not fitted?

What vehicle do you have?

The way i determined the TC was at fault on my 04 petrol was to keep a constant light accelerating throttle up a long gradual incline and the TC used to vibrate up until around 55 - 60 mph at which point it should stop as the LUC should be locked and when i was getting the vibration the rev counter would move very slightly.

3rd Nov 2016 9:09pm

ohuntsman

Member Since: 21 Mar 2016
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 340

I'll check it out as soon as my brake pads arrive from EuroCarparts' Halloween sale #noideawheretheygotdeliveredto

4th Nov 2016 8:48am

holidaychicken

Member Since: 06 Nov 2013
Location: Kent
Posts: 1086

be careful jacking the back up with only a small amount of axle stand on the wood as when i jack up mine it moves around quite a bit from one side to the other, i use cheap railway sleepers and sometimes drive mine up on them

4th Nov 2016 9:29am

ohuntsman

Member Since: 21 Mar 2016
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 340

Cheers buddy- I have plenty of sleepers

4th Nov 2016 12:05pm

ohuntsman

Member Since: 21 Mar 2016
Location: Cornwall
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Sussex Auto Parts

4th Nov 2016 12:07pm

holidaychicken

Member Since: 06 Nov 2013
Location: Kent
Posts: 1086

They did mine and all good, JPAT also do them and PM RRPhil to see how much he charges for one already done off the shelf as an exchange i believe.

4th Nov 2016 6:11pm

Xray charlie

Member Since: 22 Jul 2016
Location: Derby
Posts: 48

holidaychicken, I intend to keep the car for a few years as it's a very clean '03 V8 Vogue in the colour combination I really wanted also I only want to do the job once so I'm leaning towards a fully reconditioned unit from RRPhil when needed. Currently the symptoms are not severe so I can live with it for a while longer.

4th Nov 2016 11:15pm

holidaychicken

Member Since: 06 Nov 2013
Location: Kent
Posts: 1086

That was my thoughts with mine, the ZF5HP24 transmission is much more forgiving than the GM in the TD6 as when the TC in that unit begins to let go it takes down the transmission as well by pumping metal filings through it.
You should be ok for a while but it was the vibration that bugged the life out of me as it spoils the drive at a time when you are driving most relaxingly.
If you want guaranteed good advice then it is always best to speak to Phil as i only repeat what i can remember him writing down over many forums

4th Nov 2016 11:57pm

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