Just wondered what people think are the things that might have been thought out differently on their L405.

My starter is the remote upper tailgate that could easily get damaged if you park close to a wall, solid object or low roof and hit the boot opening button without thinking; and

The rear seat centre armrest which has a solid hard plastic opening handle across its width and digs into the head or back of anyone sitting in the rear middle seat (not a good design/ no idea how they thought anyone would not find this uncomfortable, unless they didn’t test it for comfort).

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I'm not sure the remote tailgate is any worse than the manual one - or doors that still open the full way when you park next to a low wall.....

The only things I don't like have been rectified on later models, I just can't justify the update yet. Things like the heated seats being on the centre screen so you're half way up the road before you're allowed to switch them on, sat nav rather than airplay & Waze etc.

Terrible reversing lights. Alright to be seen by, but hopeless to see by when reversing in the dark.

Switches mounted horizontally on the flat centre console, which naturally get completely covered with “flat fungus” as soon as the family get into the car.

Appallingly badly designed roof rails / roof bar combination, which are difficult to use, impossible to adapt to different loads and the rails are seemingly made from silver painted cheese...

Still one of the best two cars that I’ve ever owned though

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The vehicle needs a power tailgate disable function so that you can operate it manually if required. e.g. on the previous models you could just open the lower tailgate and keep the top closed so that you could stand on the lower tailgate with the top one closed to load a roof rack or the roof bars / rails with a kayak for example. Before you could just open the top slightly then drop the lower tailgate keeping the top one closed.

Now what happens is if you have a long load on the roof and open the tailgates the top tailgate tw4ts the object on the roof. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

In foggy conditions in daylight the auto lights often don't turn themselves on. In my MINI if I turn on the fog lights the headlights come on as well. It would be nice if LR followed MINI's example.

I don’t understand

One of the reasons for having front fog lights is, when in dense fog, being able to turn off the headlamps to stop the useless glare, when the higher mounted headlamp output simply bounces back off the fog.

front fogs are for other road users to see your vehicle and are not necessarily for more front illumination although they do help...i'm pretty sure front fogs must be used with headlights .

Red Merle wrote:

... One of the reasons for having front fog lights is...

I’m not sure how many times I’m going to have to read that for it to make sense!

...okay, 2 (a) seems to cover it 👍

I’d always understood that their biggest advantage was being mounted very low, so as to illuminate the road with minimal glare from fog. Leaving headlamps on as well nullifies this advantage.

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A cure for insomnia

Indeed!

Red Merle wrote:

I’d always understood that their biggest advantage was being mounted very low, so as to illuminate the road with minimal glare from fog. Leaving headlamps on as well nullifies this advantage.

Red Merle wrote:

I don’t understand

One of the reasons for having front fog lights is, when in dense fog, being able to turn off the headlamps to stop the useless glare, when the higher mounted headlamp output simply bounces back off the fog.

I did not refer to front fog lights. Front fog lights were an option on my Vogue. My point is that if you want the rear fogs on in foggy but daylight conditions you have to put the lights onto manual.

I think this is why in a lot of vehicles the front fog lights will operate with just the sidelights switched on rather than full beam to stop glare as RM states.