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dazza1983



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

So can someone inform of the difference between the fbh and timed climate.

Am I right I’m saying the fbh will only heat the cabin and the timed climate when set via touch screen can cool the cabin in the summer?

Daz

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kooky_guy



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DrRob wrote:
Turn up the heat setting the night before to full and it will be really toasty the next day. Works for me on the timed option.
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Does that really work? I thought it was independent of the heat settings. Mine gets warm enough to defrost the windows, but I wouldn't call it toasty! And as previously mentioned, it cools off really quickly.

Perhaps I'll try it - if I remember! 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

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kooky_guy



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dazza1983 wrote:
So can someone inform of the difference between the fbh and timed climate.

Am I right I’m saying the fbh will only heat the cabin and the timed climate when set via touch screen can cool the cabin in the summer?

Daz


I think the timed climate uses the FBH to heat when it's cold and just blows ambient air to cool when it's hot. 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

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rjff



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Dazza

Timed climate is used to provide either heated (parked heating) or ambient (parked ventilation) air to the cabin prior to you getting in. You set it via the TSD, or use the remote at any time, following the instructions in your car's manual. In the UK 2011MY diesels, it runs for 20 minutes (source, workshop manual), providing heating below 61F and ambient air ventilation above 61F. The FBH is the unit which delivers the heated water to the heater matrix for this. The FBH also, I understand, assists in boosting the heating of the cabin if the engine coolant temperature is below that of the FBH outlet when the engine is started.

On the coldest morning round here the parked heating had the screens almost defrosted and the cabin chill off, slightly warm feeling by the time it turned off. After clearing the windows of frost/ water with the engine on and defrost running the car was ready to go.

The owner's manual is in the Wiki if it helps.

http://www.fullfatrr.com/gallery/albums/us...manual.zip Cheers
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Andy



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I’m glad I kept this remote now! Bought it three years ago to try and work with my 2002 TD6.





All paired as per instructions above and working fine on the TDV8

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rjff



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dazza1983



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Guys I’m still trying to figure this fuel burning heater out. Anyone help with definite answers lol.

Sat on the car with the doors locked and turned the fbh on via its key fob. The auto light on the climate started flashing and the blowers at feet level started blowing air. ( not warm ) then after a few mins it just switches off?

Daz

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mjdronfield



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For definite answers you will need to read if there are any faults logged from the FBH with a diagnostic tool.

Without that, we can only offer suggestions I’m afraid. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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dazza1983



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Oh yeah I get that for sure.

Sorry what I meant was answers to how this thing works lol. In terms of is it suppose to only work in certain temps etc. Sorry bad wording by me lol.

I mean mine must be working for the blowers to come on and the auto light flashing and I can hear it working under then bonnet also.

Just don’t know how it’s suppose to work so I’m not sure if it’s correct that it switched off after a few mins.

Daz

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dolph34



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Mine stays on for about 15 mins, you can hear the roar from the FBH once you close and the cabin tenp is toasty if you get in just after it stops. Hope that helps Thumbs Up 2015 4.4 AB
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dazza1983



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Dolph does the temperature settings on your climate co trip knobs make a difference to the fbh?

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mjdronfield



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 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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dolph34



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I'm not sure , i always leave them.on full heat Thumbs Up 2015 4.4 AB
GSXR 1000 K5
R1 1998

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dazza1983



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Well im now pretty confident that my FBH is not working as it should lol,

just dont know how to proceed,

Fired it up this morning via the remote fob and that started flashing green, got in the car 25 mins later and cold,

On friday after work i did the same thing however i was in the car for 5 mins with it running and there was cold air coming from the foot vents so its doing something just not what it should?

I can hear it running if i stick my ear to the wing, but having said that i now dont remeber hearing the click every few seconds like i did when i 1sy brought the car?

This thing is a pain in the rear lol, i hate having something on a car which doesnt work

Daz

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Dolphinboy



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Get the codes read. It could be a low battery, a glow plug malfunction (the system starts but there’s no spark) or it could be sooted up and over-rides the ignition sequence so as not to start a 🔥

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