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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver
How much rust is acceptable?

I’m looking for an upgrade to a 4.2 and they all seem to be rust buckets at the back end/sills. I’m not going to name but is this acceptable for a 100k car 2007 for 8k? Or is it priced high with this level of rust? Those sill felt very thin








 Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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Pawl



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Cairns Blue

Walk away. There must be better SCs than that!
Our similar age, higher mileage TDV8 is much better than that & there's no reason an SC can't be. Paul,
2001 Discovery 2 TD5, 211,000 miles & climbing
2006 FFRR TDV8 Vogue 145,000 miles & climbing
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nicedayforit



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England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. It will be impossible to eradicate fully and whatever is done as a repair to the Cills will come back to haunt you after a couple of winters.
The suspension members are heavy lumps of metal and aren't too bad, a good wire brush and a coat of grease would keep them going for years. Thumbs Up

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ur20v



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A Trap 

Looks superficial and normal for UK, salt Kaiden roads there.. my Spanish FF has never been off road or seen salt so is like new underneath 😎

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

nicedayforit wrote:
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. It will be impossible to eradicate fully and whatever is done as a repair to the Cills will come back to haunt you after a couple of winters.
The suspension members are heavy lumps of metal and aren't too bad, a good wire brush and a coat of grease would keep them going for years. Thumbs Up


I see you have an 04 are your sills in a better state?

Cheers Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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nicedayforit



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England 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

Had the car for 8 years but regularly treat it to a coating of oil and grease so to date no corrosion to cills or rear arches or for that matter anywhere else. Thumbs Up

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CS



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Scotland 2017 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Corris Grey

My 2004 was waxoyled when bought new and its underside was pretty good when it was sold in 2013. My 2012 by contrast needed a new upper tailgate and had wheel arch rust after 2 1/2 years. It had not been waxoyled as it was a used demo when I got it so not the same opportunity. But in general the later cars seem worse for corrosion, perhaps due to a combination of different paint regulations, higher scrap content in the steel and maybe some cost saving at JLR under Ford. The need to repaint the 2012 322's arches every year from year 3 onwards was a major contributor to my move to a 405.

It is disappointing that JLR did not do better, as the OP says particularly at the price. They protected the P38 much better, with vulnerable panels being galvanised, coated with anti-chip paint and then painted, so it's not as if they did not know what to do. The 322s were just painted, perhaps because so much of the production goes to salt-free countries and the cost of protecting UK etc cars was not thought worth it. Only Range Rovers since 1988

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

so CS, do the 405 not suffer rust the same then?

What year does it start to go wrong will a 2005 4.2 be better from a rust free perspective than say an 08?

cheers Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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CS



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The 405 ought to be better given the aluminium architecture, the wheel arches and tailgate will be aluminium rather than steel. AFAIK the big issue with 322s is the structural nature of the hindquarters, making them costly to replace, and quite a big job too. "Lesser" components such as the tailgate are a costly nuisance too of course but not perhaps as fatal. There will be some steel components underneath the 405, it's too early for me to have a view on durability compared with the 322.

Sorry I can't help on the different years of 322, having had only 2004 and 2012, maybe some site sponsors who see lots of them can say. Only Range Rovers since 1988

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Sandyt



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

Have to say mine is on 180k and 10yrs and nowhere near as bad as that the cills are relatively rust free

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

Wow that’s some big miles on an s/c - good to know they do exist if I keep looking Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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Sandyt



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Had this one for coming up to 5 yrs and put over 120 on it they wear out so bits have to be replaced that's all

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

You had any engine/sc/gearbox issues? Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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Sandyt



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

Had a new gearbox on 100k due to a sticking solenoid why they replaced the whole gearbox god knows since then not a problem change gearbox oil every 30k and engine at 10k and diffs every year all good

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

Good to know! Cheers! Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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