Greg,
I would find 2 larger plain washers that are approx 1cm less in diameter than the bore measurement, soak the leather washer in a saucer of oil overnight, then re- assemble it sandwiched between the washers. That will flatten it and increase its diameter, thus giving more compression. If nescasary, you could make 2 out of some rigid plastic.
If you are stuck, measure the cylinder bore and I will make you 2 .
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Great suggestion Mike.

I did just that:

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Good job Greg ... ...many would have given up, but not you ..
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Cheers guys.

I'm not going to fully declared this one FIXED until I've sucked 9.5 of the black stuff out of my sump.
Fingers crossed it'll behave.

I had to grind two large washers down to approx 40mm to fit into the bore which is around 48mm.

. Cheers, Greg
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OK so a week later I pop out to the car, get everything ready, warm up the engine, attach the suction and start pumping. A few strokes and I see oil running up the suction pipe. Great.

It got a litre out then nothing. Pumping more didn't help it just gurgled.

So I'm declaring this one officially: Fubar.

I doubt I'll try another. Packed it up it's going back to the seller.

With a litre out of the sump I was committed to changing the oil one way or another so up go the air bags and off came the sump covers, I'll be going with good old gravity today.

Cutting the side out of a disposable 15 litre cooking oil bottle (thanks to one of the local takeaways) the old stuff came out easily. First the barb-fitting hose off (strong fingers needed) and then the secondary drain, all the old stuff drained out quickly and easily.

Buy a new one you tight arse :  2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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You got me there DrRob.

I know but I'm soured now....

Adding to today I've had quite a few years of maintaining my boat's twin Volvo Pentas using suction method through the dip stick (which is the correct way but a right PITA) left me longing for an old fashioned sump plug.

Once a year? I'll go with gravity and the cooking oil container!

But if anyone reads this with a duff one wondering if it can be fixed....

 Cheers, Greg
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Greg,
Tough luck you couldn’t fix it, but your picture really does convince me that sucking it out is best.
No spills or drips, no lying on the cold floor on a piece of cardboard, no removing the underskirt, et etc.

I still intend to try fitting a schrader valve to mine when the slow boat from China docks just to try using my footpump instead of the built in hand pump just in case the hand pump ever fails.
You are still welcome to the spare one if it works.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Greg - you are more than welcome to bomb down the A3 anytime and use mine to change your oil and filter on my drive
I’ll even make you a brew  2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Very kind offer Rob If I didn’t live so far away I would be tempted to bring the biscuits .
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V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Fellow suckers....
At £3.19.. for 2... these are a bargain.
Perfect fit, ( I might add some PTFE tape to the thread, but it didn’t leak on my test run.

Thank you Mike!
However mines gone back to where it came from! Cheers, Greg
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Also thank you DrRob, only seen your post now!
Very kind!!!

. Cheers, Greg
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Greg,
I had a couple of litres of old oil in a container, I connected my ffootpump and it emptied into the Draper no problem with just a few pumps.
I will probably never use it again this way because it is so easy with the integral hand pump, but at least I know it works.
Mike.

PS
Other members can now form an orderly queue by PM . G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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