Toyotas go wrong, ive got 2. break all the time, though we do hammer them......

My D4 hasn't broken this year.......yet and there are only a couple of days left.

in terms of the D5 the OP was asking about, I would give it a drive and see what you think. I am seriously considering a pertol car for the next motoring instalment. Diesel has been fully villified over the last few years and though much much better than it was emissions wise it still has that Dirty diesel label the press have given it.

it will be the torque which is missing, and great big gobs of it. 450NM may sound a lot but its 330lbft. vs 516lbft from the SDV6 D5. so that's a massive chunk of pulling power missing. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

Diesel will be around for a lot longer...the gullible and sheep like masses have not yet cottoned on they are just as clean and less CO2 than a petrol. Plus when they realise the environmental impact of mining for Cobalt etc for EV batteries then it will be their turn for vilification
The real answer imho is the hydrogen fuel cell. Just need to add a hydrogen pump at all petrol stations first  2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
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that is also my opinion, the problem is that at present a lot of the Hydrogen produced is made from reforming fossil fuels, so though clean at the point of use the energy required to make the hydrogen in the first place is high, but as a long term solution it makes more sense than batteries. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
Fiat 500x 1.4 multiair Lounge 2015
2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

I’m with DrRob that this isn’t the end of diesel. We have, however, had a clear out of many people (low mileage and city drivers) that should never have had a diesel in the first place. The knock out blow will come when legislators ask for too much and manufacturers simply give up designing and manufacturing new designs. That’s starting to happen now.

However, it wouldn’t stop me from buying another diesel right now. But, if I needed a new (ish) 7 adult seater 4x4 I can’t think of a single thing that I’d actually want to buy.

JST - take a D5 out for a day and let us know your thoughts.....some main dealers still have late plate 7 seater D4s on their lot  2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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My son has got a 3.0l Disco 5 commercial as his company van. It goes very well and he is very happy with it, but no way would I swap my L322 for it, even though his is brand new and mine is 8 years old.
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DrRob wrote:

JST - take a D5 out for a day and let us know your thoughts.....some main dealers still have late plate 7 seater D4s on their lot

Even if they were to exchange the price stickers between a new ‘5 and a late ‘4, I’d still take the ‘4! Definitely one for a very long test drive before parting with the L322

DrRob wrote:

JST - take a D5 out for a day and let us know your thoughts.....some main dealers still have late plate 7 seater D4s on their lot