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Zebedee



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L405 4.4 Sump

Does anyone have detailed pictures of a 4.4 SDV8 engine sump, or ideally has one off a car locally that I can have a look at and measure, please?

It doesn't matter if it is damaged or unserviceable in any way. Current:
- 2013 L405 4.4 TDV8 Vogue
Sold:
- 2004 L322 4.4 Vogue (BRC LPG)
- 2002 L322 4.4 HSE (having fixed timing chain guides)
- 2000 P38 4.6 Vogue (BRC LPG)
- 1981 2-door In-Vogue
- 1980 Ex-Army SIII LWB
- 1976 SIII LWB
- 1968 SIIA
Stripped for parts:
- 2003 L322 4.4 Vogue

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Question Question Question

Im intrigued as to why sir?

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Try a search for a thread by Salter 21? , or a PM to him.

He rebuilt a L322 with a new L405 4.4 engine, but had to swap the sump back to the L322 version.

Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

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Zebedee



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Thanks Mike - will try him.

The reason for the sump enquiry is:

You may have seen the thread about the £20k L405. One of the issues that needs to be addressed is the failed oil level sensor, which requires a 10-hour job to replace - just to find out how much oil is in the sump.

What I've found so far is that the sensor was originally designed to fit externally from bottom of the sump. It has an oil control seal and failure of the sensor would require an oil drain, 3 bolts removed and the sensor removed and replaced - all taking about 15 minutes. I think the sensor on the L322 4.4 is mounted externally, as is most [all?] applications of this type of sensor.

Land Rover, in its infinite wisdom, decided for the L405 4.4 that the sensor needed to be mounted inside the sump - possibly because of the amount of oil required in the 4.4 meant the standard sensor was not long enough. Which is fine until it fails. To replace it now requires both front drive shafts to come off, the diff to come off, then drop the front subframe to give access to the sump bolts - hence the 10 hour job. Maltings 4x4 have said that they are doing more and more of these sensor replacements.

What I'm considering is creating a canister connected to the sump oil that can be mounted to the side of the engine, and the oil level sensor can be mounted to the bottom of this canister (so the sensor is easy to change). I need to know roughly the height that the sensor should sit in the sump in order to know roughly where the new cannister needs to sit. Current:
- 2013 L405 4.4 TDV8 Vogue
Sold:
- 2004 L322 4.4 Vogue (BRC LPG)
- 2002 L322 4.4 HSE (having fixed timing chain guides)
- 2000 P38 4.6 Vogue (BRC LPG)
- 1981 2-door In-Vogue
- 1980 Ex-Army SIII LWB
- 1976 SIII LWB
- 1968 SIIA
Stripped for parts:
- 2003 L322 4.4 Vogue

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https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic47799.html

Found it.
Mike

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 G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

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