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RRover



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dingg1 wrote:
The thread that keeps on giving Laughing

Almost as good as the supermarket fuel debate Rolling Eyes


Rolling with laughter

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I know I keep on about the kumhos

Seems I'm not alone

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Crikey I only originally wanted to get some opinions, but the inexpensive tyre haters that apparently sometimes are called tyre snobs went full Ninja Mutant on the subject, which to me had the 'slightest' whiff of funded spouting for the expensive top brands.
You could compare some of this to a year or more ago, when the mask manufacturers legally stated (they had to for legal reasons) that their masks were not designed for virus type flu malarkey's... But that all got hushed up. Lots of elites are racking it in now thanks to PPE...
I still say my £100 per tyre IOTA's are just fine... Yawn

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This is remarkable.

Do people genuinely think that, for example, where a major manufacturer owns other brands which are sold more cheaply, the cheaper tyre has the same investment in its design and development and performs just as well as the flagship products? Is it just brand snobs who choose a Michelin over a Riken, when they’re both from the same company?

By that measure, you wouldn’t be driving a Range Rover, you’d be smugly enjoying exactly the same experience in your SssangYong Korando for a fraction of the cost.

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PistonHeads managed 9 pages on the topic - we're almost there Smile

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Philip wrote:
This is remarkable.

Do people genuinely think that, for example, where a major manufacturer owns other brands which are sold more cheaply, the cheaper tyre has the same investment in its design and development and performs just as well as the flagship products? Is it just brand snobs who choose a Michelin over a Riken, when they’re both from the same company?

By that measure, you wouldn’t be driving a Range Rover, you’d be smugly enjoying exactly the same experience in your SssangYong Korando for a fraction of the cost.


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

suggesting surprise that "people [may] genuinely" think that the design and development between two tyres is similar, and then projecting that entirely bogus & irrelevant point into whether they should consider a SsangYong instead of a RR is another classic straw-man argument

Laughing Laughing Laughing

do you have any evidence that Michelin are better or worse in any given vehicle in any given environment or are you convinced simply by the price? 2010 VSE [Roger]

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there are:

'cheap' tyres
'cheaper' tyres
'expensive' tyres
'more expensive' tyres
'very expensive tyres


but the marketing men will try to get us to use phrases like

'budget'
'mid range'
'premium'

these words relate to the cost but they convey a sense of 'worth' to the buyer with the underlying message that the more you pay the better you will feel about it Very Happy 2010 VSE [Roger]

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Philip



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dexion7 wrote:

do you have any evidence that Michelin are better or worse in any given vehicle in any given environment or are you convinced simply by the price?


Do you have comprehension issues?

Objective, figured tyre tests rarely find cheaper brands outperforming the “premium” ones - for any type of tyre, on any car. Manufacturers know that some people care more about price than ultimate performance, so sell cheaper tyres under cheaper names, keeping the newest and best technology for their flagship brands.

None of this is controversial, unless you are a dolt.

Presumably there must be many unpublished independent, objective test results showing your choice of cheaper tyre outperforming the “premium” branded ones?

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