Hello all,

Im a new member just joined due to buying an L322 with a dead engine, the car is a late 2010 Autobiography Black, may sound insane but i was looking for a nice spec 4.4 with an engine issue so i could rebuild engine and include as many preventative mods/upgrades as possible in the hope it will last me a long time, my reasoning is that im sure due to age/mileage theres a lot of 4.4 L332’s are about due to suffer engine issues so il get a head start, buy a basically good car with an engine fail and make good/upgrade, then i know im in with the best chance for the future.

So im here to try and gain the benefit of enthusiasts knowledge and experience of the best precautions, upgrades, mods, tips from the forum to try my best to “future proof” my engine.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Firstly,
Welcome to the forum.,you are in good company on here, plenty of 4.4 TdV8 owners on here.

Secondly you will find a copy of the 2010/12 workshop manual available for free download in the Wiki section, which is full of info on the 4.4 tdV8 engine.

Finally for now search out threads relating to oil leaks on this model, which mainly refer to the rubber gaskets on the oil cooler which bake hard and fail over time but to anyone handy with spanner’s can be fixed for around £20 for replacements
plus the two O rings on the turbo oil feed pipe at the back of the engine which cost pence off eBay.

Keep us updated on any work you do.
Cheers
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Last edited by Baltic Blue on 18th Feb 2021 1:55pm. Edited 1 time in total

Thanks for the reply and the welcome, ive read about the turbo drain pipe upgrade so will be doing that but wondered if there was any other recommended improvements to be made.

Don't think anyone makes upgraded parts for the engine, certainly never heard of any. Could get very expensive if you have them made...

Why did the engine in yours fail, I thought the engines were supposed to be pretty reliable, only problems you hear is when people don't fix faults quickly and/or a turbo lets go or something similar...

Mind you I don't know much about the diesel... someone who does will be along shortly...  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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I wasnt thinking upgraded engine parts, rather precautionary upgrades, better seals, improved drain tube etc.

Not sure what happened yet, only just bought it, engine appears seized, im guessing turbo let go.

The turbo drain mod is covered in a maintenance bulletin which is also available in the Wiki.

Are you planning removing the engine to work on it or working in situ.?
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

That sounds like a plan, you hear a lot of intake/turbo pipes splitting as well so maybe change all them for upgraded ones..  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Baltic Blue wrote:

The turbo drain mod is covered in a maintenance bulletin which is also available in the Wiki.

Are you planning removing the engine to work on it or working in situ.?
Mike.

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic50269.html

In that case it makes sense to consider doing the belts and tensioner etc at the same time.
Mike G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

Agreed

Autobiographyblack wrote:

<snip> my reasoning is that im sure due to age/mileage theres a lot of 4.4 L332’s are about due to suffer engine issues so il get a head start, <snip>

Autobiographyblack wrote:

Agreed

For me if the engine is out i would defiantly change / inspect the following items after the main culprit for the original failure has been fixed. these are items just because the engine is out.

1) Send both turbo's off for inspection and recon as needed
2) replace all aux belts, pullies & tensioners
3) replace water pump regardless of current condition
4) replace TC just because it is out
5) Service GB with new filter and fluids
6) At min change oil cooler gaskets / replace oil cooler / same with GB oil cooler and pipe work
7) remove clean and inspect EGR valve replace if required
I am told the thermostat housing can get brittle inspect / change if required
9) Rocker cover gaskets i would replace just cos it is out
10) New glow plugs again it is out this job is x10 time simpler
11) inspect and flush out intercooler
12) inspect vac pipes and change if required
13) Inspect cooler pipes change if required
14) Inspect change all turbo / boost pipes change if required

this is just me i am sure those in the know will add things but to have an engine out of the car it seems silly not to inspect and replace these items.

good luck and keep us posted 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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Jayk69 wrote:

For me if the engine is out i would defiantly change / inspect the following items after the main culprit for the original failure has been fixed. these are items just because the engine is out.

1) Send both turbo's off for inspection and recon as needed
2) replace all aux belts, pullies & tensioners
3) replace water pump regardless of current condition
4) replace TC just because it is out
5) Service GB with new filter and fluids
6) At min change oil cooler gaskets / replace oil cooler / same with GB oil cooler and pipe work
7) remove clean and inspect EGR valve replace if required
I am told the thermostat housing can get brittle inspect / change if required
9) Rocker cover gaskets i would replace just cos it is out
10) New glow plugs again it is out this job is x10 time simpler
11) inspect and flush out intercooler
12) inspect vac pipes and change if required
13) Inspect cooler pipes change if required
14) Inspect change all turbo / boost pipes change if required

this is just me i am sure those in the know will add things but to have an engine out of the car it seems silly not to inspect and replace these items.

good luck and keep us posted