My car feels unsettled when on anything but smooth surfaces. I’ve had the rear sub frame bushes replaced by the garage I bought the car from which improved things for me, but not quite right still.
I have also been advised that the rear upper and front back arm bushes are also worn.

Given the car has covered 155k 115k miles, I am looking to replace all bushes starting with the rear (as it’s worse)

I’m looking to order a bush press kit so I change the rear hub bushes in situ. If I have the bush press kit already, would I be better off buying the rear upper and lower arms still? Or just the bushes? I only ask in case those arm bushes are very tricky, and if I have the arms off anyway then I may as well save myself some hassle?

I’ll also swap the toe control arms while there. Is there anything else I should look to swap while I’m there? Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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See here for what is involved:
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic17399.html?

If you have the money and the new wishbones come with all the bushes fitted, this might save you a lot of pain and time.

Given I have been there, done that, please ask if you need any insight. .
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That is an excellent write up Joe90! Kudos

I’ve read everything and note your lessons learned when you started on the RHS - especially breaking it down into smaller jobs like work on the upper in one go, then lower during another stint, etc.

One thing I didn’t realise is the need to use the IIDTool to deflate the bags. I don’t yet have one as its expensive and have other urgent items to pay for! Are there other options? I.e. disconnect the battery, and loosen the airline pipe to let the air out? Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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disconnect the battery, and loosen the airline pipe to let the air out?

Yes, if I remember correctly, this is possible, once you remove the inner wheelarches you will find the valve block. You should release the air pressure there.

There was an RSW Solutions video on youtube that showed this method, I can't find it now. I think I have something in my gallery also....found it...
https://www.fullfatrr.com/gallery/displayi...amp;pos=18

note this is for the front valve block, but the rear is a similar approach.

Make sure car is unlocked and keys outside the car before battery disconnection. .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Appreciate your responses Joe90.
I’ve got a shopping list being pulled together and I’ll let you know when I plan to start!!!
I think I’ll be raiding the garage to eBay a few bits and pieces  Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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My 2p would be to buy genuine bushes or arms if you don't want to do the job again in a few months....  Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
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Agreed! Genuine all the way!!! Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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Before you start have you had the wheel alignment checked on a proper 4 wheel alignment checker after the first set of bushes were replaced?
You could be pleasantly surprised at the difference it can make to the drive and it might save you a lot of work

When the rear subframe bushes were replaced the car had a 4 wheel alignment done.
Things have improved with those replaced bushes, but things do still feel loose especially over any rough surfaces. Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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In this thread you will see a list of the suspension parts I replaced, it will give you an idea. (ignore non-suspension stuff).
Cheers

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post539270.html L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue. 07MY
ML 320 7 Seat full leather etc. (The Black Pearl)

Thank you RichM63 for that link. Very useful indeed… especially I am currently writing a list of the things I need and their costs!
Rob at Duckworths has been great at pricing up the parts requested so far (rear only at this stage), but your list gives me prices for the things to do later!

It’s a scary list mind…  Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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'm pretty sure I have a few bad bushings in the rear of my 06 but just replacing the shocks made a HUGE difference. Less than 2 hours worth of work and it's like a different car.

Thanks gravitylover.
The car went back to the dealer to be looked at with me expecting it to be the strut, but apparently it was fine. They did some form of test which it passed, hence their plan to replace the sub frame bushes.
I didn’t challenge this as the sub frame bush replacement is a fair amount of labour, whereas the strut is relatively simple… so they can do that one for me!

I had always planned to change the bushes anyway, and the struts later on down the line too. So I’ll get the rear bushes done (they are worn anyway) and see how the car feels and then plan to do the front bushes or rear struts next.

I also want to service the gearbox and need to do things in the most urgent order as money comes up. Typical, I buy the car and something else in life comes up and costs money I planned to spend on the car! Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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So I am finally at the point of ordering the new bushes, bars, etc ready to get this job done. It’s been a challenging few months financially due to life getting in the way… but nearly there.

I got the car up and wheels off to have a good look at the state of things…
They are looking a bit sorry!

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I’ll be following the excellent posts by Joe90 and Fisha… and intend to tackle the rusty areas on the subframe and arms being refitted.
I have the Hammerite paint ready to go!!!  Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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