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SAppie



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TDV8 Power steering Fluid leak

My rangie is in at the local dealer for a power steering leak. I noticed a small amount of oil on the drive a few weeks ago, and upon further investigation, I discovered that the power steering fluid has dropped down from the max mark to the min mark.

I began looking for the cause, and luckily the pump itself is bone dry, as is the steering rack. So, couldn't see anything else but I though that it must be the pipes.

Had a call from the dealer to say that the Coil Cooler is leaking and needs replacing. They reckon its a big job, and have quoted me 4 hours plus the parts, with a total cost of £525.16 to rectify the fault, and to top it off, they will need the car overnight, whilst waiting for the part to arrive. I had a look on microcat for the power steering diagram (see below), and can now see what the part looks like, its marked as 3D746

So, i was wondering if anyone has had any similar issues, and also, considering that my car is a 2007 model with only 70k miles on the clock, is this normal? Surely this part should normally last for the life of the car?

Any info would be appreciated.

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Post #64772 19th May 2011 3:52pm
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I too had a PAS issue, small leak draining the reservoir, made the steering groan, kept topping it up.

Apparently one of the pipes was at fault.

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic4116.h...r+steering

Similar cost. Not great on such a modern car to have these types of issues I felt. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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SAppie



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RRUK wrote:
I too had a PAS issue, small leak draining the reservoir, made the steering groan, kept topping it up.

Apparently one of the pipes was at fault.

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic4116.h...r+steering

Similar cost. Not great on such a modern car to have these types of issues I felt.


Thanks for the reply, i guess that my faulty COIL COOLER must be a rare failure, as I've not heard of anyone elese having this particular issue.

I agree re having this sought of issue on this level of car, but I'll be glad to get my baby back in tiptop condition again.

Cheers

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They say misery likes company!

I've never heard of that part, who knows if it exists! Either way, a fairly young car with not many miles shouldn't blow PAS parts, its just not right, Nothing we can do but cough up though. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

Post #64825 19th May 2011 7:04pm
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SAppie



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Just collected my car, all is good again. loving it!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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I checked my invoice, mine was the same fault, the coil cooler pipe.

Nice to have it back working when its been broken, you take it for granted otherwise. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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SAppie



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Yep, we both had the exact same issue.......very strange. Makes you wonder if it is something to watch out for with the TDV8???

Cheers
Matt

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The same part just failed on my '08 TDV8. It's 9 years old and I've owned it for 5. I assume the one that failed was the original one but I've no way of knowing for sure (nothing mentioned in the log book at least).

My dealer here in Germany charged me about 600 EUR for parts and labour and new PAS oil. It took them 2.2 hours to do according to the bill. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 automatic (LHD), Santorini Black
2008 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 automatic (LHD), Java Black

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I have a 2007 TDV8 and I think I've got the same issue.

I've dropped the front shield off and checked under. On first look it seems to be a leak on one of the cooler pipes. These pipes are held by a steel clip bracket onto the chassis - it wouldn't surprise me if the steel bracket was wearing through the aluminium pipe with normal driving vibration - if so really poor design.

I'll probably start a separate thread on this but I'll probably do the repair myself if I can. The problem is the workshop manual says you have to remove the radiator to get at the cooler - which also entails degassing (and then recharging) the AC system - so I can't do it at home if that's the only way.

I was hoping that there is a way of getting in through the front panels to do the change.

If that German garage did it in two hours that gives me hope that there could be another way.

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Looks worse than it is/was Thumbs Up

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Shocked is that the washed bottle bottom right?

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Thanks mate, just the pic I was looking for. 2007 TDV8

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Mr Tee wrote:
Shocked is that the washed bottle bottom right?


Correct Thumbs Up

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Got similar issue on my L322 my2008 tdv8
Exactly under plastic clips one pipe leaking little and second slightly corroded alloy not leaking as of yet.

Need to source new radiator now.

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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Autobiography Black TDV8 Santorini Black




Since getting my FF TDV8, I have numerous leaks from the Steering. Initially I had the Steering rack replaced as this was cited as the leaking component, which seemed to cure the problem for a couple of months. Have also just had the 2 pipes to the cooler replaced as well last week. Since being returned we now have another leak- does the Steering system give so many problems- from the above posts, it looks like it might now n=be the cooler?

However, when running around town at low speed it seems to be ok, only after a higher speed run do the problems appear. As the steering pump speed is governed by the engine speed, and steering pump outlet pressure regulated to 114 Bar+/-4 bar , the oil being regulated by internal pressure control and flow control at 8.8l/min.

Has anyone heard of the internal pressure control valve failing causing overpressure? The oil sprays all over the front left side of the engine bay when it leaks, but cannot be emulated in the workshop with the engine running? At the moment I am pulling my hair out- what little is left!

Any advice welcome thanks. Steve

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