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Dan_Veluwe



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P400e 'To EV or not to EV' , that's the question.

I just own a P400e (2019) since two months. I potter around the village as much as
possible in EV mode. This means driving a total up to 20-30km's, then charge again.

This works fine, and is ideal since an ICE would not heat up on these 3-4 km trips,
even if you do a total of 40km in a few hours. One of the reasons I traded the D5 SD4.

Then suddenly, the 4th stretch, or on starting in the morning, it goes off with the ICE.
Sometimes I drive 50m to the gate, get out to open it (ignition switches of once the
door is opened), get back in and it starts the ICE. Even fully charged, EV-on ánd
the ECO mode engaged.. .. puzzles me.

One time it started several times in EV. Then started in ICE. I switched off, started
again.. .. EV. Next stop, after 3 km's, it only started in ICE. Re-started three times,
no joy. Even programmed navigation to go home ( 4 km's..), but with the remaining
EV range on 20km's it kept running on ICE while waiting at a traffic light.. Shocked

I wondered if it has anything to do with the small battery needing charging. So I
put a voltage meter in the sigaret lighter, but that stays neatly on 13V, even when
it just started the ICE ... .. Rolling Eyes

Anyone who has a lead ?

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AJGalaxy2012



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

Our Outlander PHEV has similar behaviour in the colder weather, it decides to use the ICE to generate the power needed to operate the heatpump.
It also gets into a mode if it's run in EV mode and not used 15 litres of fuel in 3 months it runs the ICE to maintain the fuel system, it resets once 15 litres of fuel has been added. Again, I dont know if any of the above applies to the P400e BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

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adara



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Romania 2019 Range Rover Vogue 2.0 PHEV Santorini Black

It behaves like this in cold weather. Also there are times when I just accelerate a little to overpass, the ICE engages and then it runs for a while, even at the red light! I am amused, as this behaviour kind of defeats the whole start-stop system... 2019 Vogue P400e

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AJGalaxy2012



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

If the engine is cold it will run until it’s reached operating temperature. BMW i3 Electric Car
2012 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8 (now gone)
2006 VW Touareg 3.0 TDi V6

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Dan_Veluwe



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I've read-up about this. Seems whole EV doesn't work below -5C.

And also, blocking start/stop, blocks the EV too ! I-pace First Edition Santorini & 2nd car Mazda MX-30 Advantage red/black
PHEV P400e Hybrid Autobiography Loire blue= SOLD
D5 SD4 HSE Lux Corris grey = SOLD
D3 TdV6 HSE Lux Vienna Green =SOLD
P300 F-Type 2018 Ultra Blue = SOLD
25t F-Pace 2020 Loire Blue = SOLD

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Dan_Veluwe



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AJGalaxy2012 wrote:
Our Outlander PHEV has similar behaviour in the colder weather, it decides to use the ICE to generate the power needed to operate the heatpump.
It also gets into a mode if it's run in EV mode and not used 15 litres of fuel in 3 months it runs the ICE to maintain the fuel system, it resets once 15 litres of fuel has been added. Again, I dont know if any of the above applies to the P400e


It appears there are common grounds here. I did measure the 'creep current'. After the app says "fully charged".
the system eats 3kWh per 24/h if it stays connected. I-pace First Edition Santorini & 2nd car Mazda MX-30 Advantage red/black
PHEV P400e Hybrid Autobiography Loire blue= SOLD
D5 SD4 HSE Lux Corris grey = SOLD
D3 TdV6 HSE Lux Vienna Green =SOLD
P300 F-Type 2018 Ultra Blue = SOLD
25t F-Pace 2020 Loire Blue = SOLD

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