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vs322



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Greece 2004 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black
Would you keep or would you sell... --->

Your 225K Km '04MY full fat which has recently had...


The following parts replaced:

ENGINE

RADIATOR
VALLEY PAN
GEARBOX COOLER RADIATOR MANIFOLD+STAT
TOP RADIATOR HOSE
REAR HOSE TO HEATER MATRIX
LOWER RETURN HOSE
EXPANSION TANK AND CAP
VACUUM LINE TUBES
INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKETS
PCV
PCV GASKET
CROSS OVER PIPE (THIN)
WATER PUMP
THERMOSTAT
SPARK PLUGS
IGNITION COILS
TIMING CHAIN SET
TIMING CHAIN GUIDES SET
TENSIONER
HEAD GASKETS
ROCKER COVERS SEALS
TIMING COVER SEALS
VANOS SOLENOID SEALS
IDLER PULLEY
SERPENTINE BELTS
AIR FILTER
OIL FILTER
OIL CHANGE
COOLANT CHANGE
O2 SENSORS ALL 4
COOLANT TEMP SENSOR

TRANSMISSION

COMPLETE GEARBOX 90K KM AGO
GEARBOX OIL AND FILTER CHANGE X2 SINCE GEARBOX REPLACEMENT
FRONT - REAR DIFF AND TRANSFER CASE OIL CHANGE
NEUTRAL (XYZ) SWITCH

SUSPENSION

FRONT BUSHES
FRONT BALL JOINTS
FRONT DROP LINKS
FRONT AIR STRUTS

BODY

SIDE LIGHT CLUSTERS, FRONT
TAIL LIGHTS
REAR WIPER MOTOR
PASSENGER WING MIRROR GLASS
WINDSCREEN JET SPRAYER RIGHT
WIPER BLADES FRONT - REAR
WHEEL CAPS
BOOT LID GAS STRUTS
A PILLAR TRIM
TOWING EYE COVER
HEADLAMP WASHER PUMP
PASSENGER DOOR LOCK
REAR LEFT DOOR LOCK
REAR RIGHT DOOR LOCK
THIRD (TOP) BRAKE LIGHT
WINDSCREEN TOP MOULDING

BRAKES

PADS
WEAR SENSORS
FRONT ROTORS
PARKING BRAKE SHOES

INTERIOR

BLENDER DAMPER SERVO
DOOR BADGES
CABIN FILTER
REAR SEAT HINGE COVER
INDICATOR STALK
STEERING COLUMN LOCK EMULATOR

...PLUS...

BATTERY

TYRES

The following jobs done:

COLOUR CORRECTION + LIGHT POLISH
WHEEL ALIGNMENT
BONNET RESPRAY
PDC REPAIR
FUEL DOOR LOCK REPAIR
HEADLIGHT WIPERS REPAIR
REAR MUFFLER RESPRAY
BRAKE SYSTEM FLUSH
HDC + LOW RANGE PANEL / SWITCH REFURB
CYLINDER HEADS REFACING
VALVE JOB
ROCKER COVERS POWDER COATING
STEERING COLUMN LOCK REPAIR + EMULATOR INSTALLED AS EXTRA LAYER
IGNITION LOCK BARREL REPAIR
MOT VALID FOR ANOTHER 1 1/2 YEARS

And the following extras installed:

RUBBER MATS
LOAD SPACE COVER
WIND DEFLECTORS
FACTORY LEVEL WINDOW TINT
LED REVERSING LIGHTS
SPARE KEY

TOTAL COST INCLUDING PURCHASE 21,000 GBP


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Post #622238 2nd Feb 2022 4:48pm
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MPx



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Well if you've done all that then you both love your car and take good care of it. That doesn't mean you have to be wedded 'til death do you part - unless you want to of course. If you fancy a change go for it ... then go through that whole process again making the new one as good as it can be. Mike - MPx

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Post #622239 2nd Feb 2022 4:56pm
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vs322



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Greece 2004 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

Possibly going over this whole process again with another purcahse is my fear. At the same time, buying (anything) new is out of the question... Also, there's only a slim chance I could recover half the money spent, in this market.
But I do get those moments of thinking whether maintaining the fatty is worth it or not.
Math still seems to add up though...

Post #622240 2nd Feb 2022 5:04pm
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philip1972



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France 2006 Range Rover Autobiography 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

My opinion is that you definitely keep it!

I have done similar so many times and then sold, and re bought a different car and had to do loads of jobs again! All I achieved was making sure the next owner had a nearly perfect car, which is mad.

No more! I am keeping the car I have and making it brilliant for MYSELF Thumbs Up

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Dolphinboy



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keep

Post #622259 2nd Feb 2022 7:38pm
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Gsxr1250dave



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I don't know why ur asking, I'm about to pull a noisey vanos off my m62 after it's rebuild. Shoulda just resealed them at the time but didn't I would never dream of parting with it.

Still got my p38 as well

Post #622263 2nd Feb 2022 8:23pm
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vs322



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Greece 2004 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

I didn't change the Vanos either as I had no issues and was told they were just fine. I'll take my chances with them, I guess. Anyway, to the question now, it is about where one draws the line. The point where another repair job becomes one job too much.
I also own a 2001 freelander. In our 15 years together it has been through hell, with 3 crashes, multiple HG jobs, etc etc. Repaired every time taking zero shortcuts and still looks factory fresh. I have effectively re-purchased the car at list price with all these repairs and maintenance over the years.
While I can comfortably maintain the two, there are times I'm questioning my determination to keep them on the road against all odds. With that said, I'd never sell the freelander no matter the offer and I guess the same will apply for the fatty too, unless the right late model example shows up (not many here) or a 405 comes withing reach (prices skyrocketed here lately)...

Post #622301 3rd Feb 2022 12:43am
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Bl4ckD0g



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Netherlands 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

Financially likely none of it makes sense, but the question is (in my opinion); if you sell will you need to buy something else? And what is it that you want?

Here in the UK I would never dump so much money in an '04 model, but I don't know the market in Greece. Nor do I know the current state of the car.

Post #622304 3rd Feb 2022 6:07am
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vs322



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Greece 2004 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

Greece is a very particular case when it comes to cars. Taxation is what makes a newer model of this league unattainable.
That's why most similar vehicles are registered to enterprises or with foreign numbers here. Neither of these is an option.
What begins to make some financial sense for the average middle class individual, aspiring to own vehicles the size of a FF,
is something of 10 years of age and above. Being somewhat blessed with a milder weather, with little diligence we can
enjoy some rust-free motoring as well, so here's another reason why the average age of cars is higher compared to other
countries.
Used vehicle prices also are nothing like other countries. I don't think a '04 MY FF would cost more than 2000 GBP in the UK.
The market price here is anything between 10 to 14K euros. My insurance company valuated mine at 13,5 K. This can be
low mileage 2008 Supercharged (or better) kind of money elsewere.
As the car is in a very decent shape, I would probably try to sell at 11-12K, realistically, and added half that money on top towards a 2009 MY. Or even twice that towards a 2012 MY but the former will require another 6-10K to catch up with maintenance while the latter is scarcer than hen's teeth.

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Bl4ckD0g



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Netherlands 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

Exactly what I thought. Sounds to me the sensible thing to do is to keep it 👍

Post #622331 3rd Feb 2022 12:11pm
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RRV8SC



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United Kingdom 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

My gut reaction is keep.

Any pictures?

Post #622333 3rd Feb 2022 12:45pm
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Post #622337 3rd Feb 2022 12:51pm
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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

looks like a very nice condition. Same interior as my first (2002) FFRR which was also a HSE. If you use it regularly and do routine maintenance often , this should go on for years (and miles). Look at Sandyt on this forum. He has over 230,000 MILES on his old one.

Good luck.

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vs322



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Greece 2004 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

Thanks. It is driven daily although I'm planning on relieving it of the work commute duties once it's out of the garage and use a rental instead. It was initially bought to be used as a nice / weekend / hobby ride able to accommodate everyone in full gear and equipment. Driving it turned out to be very addictive though so it ended up a daily...I'm sure you all can relate...

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RRV8SC



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United Kingdom 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

Looks and sounds like a keeper to me. Nice car

Post #622349 3rd Feb 2022 2:57pm
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