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garyRR

Member Since: 13 Mar 2021
Location: Hampshire
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FBH Questions - 2011 4.4 TDV8 - Remote Not Pairing

A job I have finally got round to doing! The previous owner had the fuel pump for the FBH disconnected and bridged 'because it was causing problems'.

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This evening, I've fitted the new pump (old one was rusted as hell) and re-instated the hoses, plus run the fuel priming procedure with the IID (succeeded) and the check operation procedure (succeeded). Also acrylic coated it, to help prevent corrosion.

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However, it would be good to physically see it working, especially if it's been disconnected for a while. Is there a way to force run it for testing purposes? I understand if the ambient temperature is above 16C, it will not run.

Also, does anyone have the remote programming procedure, as when I press 'on' on the remote, I get the red light flash indicating the signal was not received. Does it do this if above 16?

Finally, does anyone know which fuse it is on the 2011, as it's not listed on either fuse panel OR in the owner's manual? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Last edited by garyRR on 9th Sep 2022 5:27pm. Edited 1 time in total

1st Aug 2022 10:35pm

Fox889

Member Since: 04 Jun 2019
Location: Bury St Edmunds. Suffolk
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2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

Off the top of my head, I can't remember the fuse number....but, if you search under FBH there's loads of info on there about it.
I think 1/4 tank diesel is a must & a minimum temperature is needed for the FBH to work....again, I can't remember the figures.........not much good am I! 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
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2nd Aug 2022 7:49am

Nylands

Member Since: 08 Sep 2019
Location: Somerset
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2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Zambezi Silver

Hi Garry
The temperature has to be 5C or below to kick in and will cut off after 30 minutes. You can set up on and off times on the also on settings also. Its a bit warm at the moment.
Dave

2nd Aug 2022 9:31am

Phoenix

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For testing, either use the Webasto software and a suitable jumper harness or disconnect the external temperature sensor, the default value is -40deg. C.

2nd Aug 2022 3:15pm

garyRR

Member Since: 13 Mar 2021
Location: Hampshire
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@Phoenix - external temperature sensor would be the one behind the front grille? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

2nd Aug 2022 3:18pm

mjdronfield

Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
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2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

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2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

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2nd Aug 2022 3:46pm

garyRR

Member Since: 13 Mar 2021
Location: Hampshire
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Thanks!

I hate removing the door cards so, given both procedures ran correctly with the IID tool, I'll see if we get a cool evening between now and September if 16C is all that's needed, then I'll think about removing the door card if I can't test before the long cold winter sets in.

Anyone know the fuse? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

2nd Aug 2022 8:11pm

garyRR

Member Since: 13 Mar 2021
Location: Hampshire
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So, the temperature dropped below 16 degrees today for about the first time. I turned on manual heat from the infotainment system and hey presto, came back to a nice warm car and a slight smell / visible exhaust vapour from the front left wheel so, all seems to be working!

My remote isn't working though and immediately flashes red when I press on. Has anyone got the remote learn procedure so I can try and re-learn it to the car? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

8th Sep 2022 9:53pm

rjff

Member Since: 28 Oct 2017
Location: Cambridgeshire
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2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

The remote paring procedure is in the Wiki workshop manual under

Climate
Auxilliary heating
Remote paring.

HTH Cheers
Richard

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9th Sep 2022 8:29am

Richycsurfer

Member Since: 18 Nov 2018
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 44

Do all late L322 have the FBH? I had a '55 reg TD6 with it but unsure if my new ('11) L322 will when it arrives.

9th Sep 2022 8:47am

garyRR

Member Since: 13 Mar 2021
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 1333

Thanks, found it.

All late L322 diesels have the FBH. The remote was optional but there's a few mod guides on here for people who have retrofitted the remote or come up with a DIY solution.

Some people (like my previous owner) have the fuel pump bridged so the FBH can't run because the part can be quite expensive when it fails. I got genuine Land Rover stock from a dealer having a clear out and got it for £40 but, in truth it's just a generic webasto pump so, if you do need to replace one, they're readily available on ebay new for around £50-60. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

9th Sep 2022 8:52am

garyRR

Member Since: 13 Mar 2021
Location: Hampshire
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I have now tried the remote learn procedure umpteen times and all I get is the flashing red light on the remote.

Everything seems where it's supposed to be:

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Any inspiration / ideas? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

9th Sep 2022 5:27pm

Dolphinboy

Member Since: 08 Dec 2009
Location: Bristol
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2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

Fob Battery? Mine did this when the battery level went to 2.8V - it needs a full 3.0

9th Sep 2022 5:37pm

Weegie

Member Since: 09 Jun 2014
Location: East Sussex
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2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

My experience, a bit of time ago, was the pairing process didn’t work. IIRC the procedure I used was to disconnect the receiver unit beside the rear fuse panel from power. Then , holding the remote button depressed I reconnected the receiver unit to power.

As I said, it was quite some time ago so I may not have remembered the detail but I do know just pulling the fuse didn’t work for some reason

You can’t lose by trying it. Good luck John
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9th Sep 2022 7:14pm

garyRR

Member Since: 13 Mar 2021
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 1333

Dolphinboy wrote:
Fob Battery? Mine did this when the battery level went to 2.8V - it needs a full 3.0

I have one on order. Good job of Webasto to go and use batteries which aren't and have never been readily available!

I did try removing the plug from the Telestart unit but not plugging back in whilst holding the button. Will try that tomorrow. Otherwise next step is to wait for the battery to arrive. If the telestart unit has failed, I may do a DIY job because I can link a WiFi switch to Alexa... who I can then shout at 5 times until she listens to me to warm up the car. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

9th Sep 2022 7:25pm

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