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KF



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Finland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

My uncle used to say that it´s quite ok to engine make some noise, it´s when the noise stops, you´re Censored .

Post #639295 11th Aug 2022 2:43pm
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Kot



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oggy wrote:
i would defo do my own investigation on that bank to see if the cyl bores are marked etc get a scope in the bores if the bores are clean could be a new set of rings or try and free them rings up


If you do want to do your own investigations, I would first change the oil and filter now, and send a sample away of the old oil for analysis who knows what other things are developing internally. As blow by, from bad rings will gunk up and certainly breakdown the oil you already have.

Look at the filter in this thread page 5 https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic63193-165.html

Also https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic62361...e+breather

Lots of good comments about breathers and separators being blocked to investigate as well

Good luck 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

Post #639307 11th Aug 2022 4:40pm
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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Is the engine still running fine except for the ticking and noise when you take the filler cap off.

Running perfect no smoke or loss of power 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #639318 11th Aug 2022 6:00pm
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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Video clip of the noise etc , you can here a tapping that doesn’t seem to be in time with the engine what’s everyone’s thoughts

https://youtube.com/shorts/WLQQ_r-YDvc?feature=share 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #639320 11th Aug 2022 6:32pm
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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

have they carried out a full diagnoses IE compression test on every cylinder?
these are big lumps that do not get driven hard due to the amount of power and torque on offer.

does the car run and drive well?

if the rings had failed you would also have DPF issues and smoke out the tailpipes. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #639321 11th Aug 2022 6:34pm
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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Not sure what has been done but on driving it the other day just before I took the video it drove sweet no hesitation no smoke from what I could see 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #639324 11th Aug 2022 6:41pm
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oggy



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

the vid link is not working states private vid you may have to open it up to the big wide world new vehicle purchase
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Post #639327 11th Aug 2022 6:50pm
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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Hopefully this works

https://youtube.com/shorts/rE0jNwEli9M?feature=share 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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JayGee



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Difficult to reconcile your Indy’s diagnosis of ‘catastrophic failure’ with it driving smoothly with no smoke. All you will hear removing the filler will be the cam lifters. A faulty hydraulic lifter will make a loud tapping sound but never heard one on more modern cars. Is your Indy a LR specialist? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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JayGee



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Was that video just after startup? If so I would expect water vapour and blow by gases getting into the crank case / cam covers. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #639330 11th Aug 2022 7:05pm
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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

They are a landrover specialist and the bid was after a 20 min drive inc a bit of heavy foot 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #639331 11th Aug 2022 7:30pm
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Philip



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If it’s still running and it’s not smoking etc, I’d get a second opinion.

Post #639338 11th Aug 2022 7:58pm
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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Think I’m going to do that, turns out my son watched the video and he said it’s been ticking on start up like that for months but as I rarely open the window I can’t hear it, can was sat for three weeks due to holiday I’m thinking after some research could it be hydronic lifters sticking, could someone take a video of the same engine and open the oil cap
Please so I can compare 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #639350 11th Aug 2022 11:21pm
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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

i will fire mine up later 2012 TDV8 4.4 and do the same see what it is like.
If anything sounds more like dodgy lifters to me but to say rings are knackered without checking is poor diagnostics in my book.
I am no expert and do not claim to be but if it were piston slap you would hear that from the drivers seat. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #639365 12th Aug 2022 9:04am
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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Thanks for offering to do the vid it would be a great help I’m leaning towards lifters 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

Post #639374 12th Aug 2022 9:51am
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