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Furnitureman



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Testing viscous fan

I think mine is fubar but if anyone else can do some checks for me I would really appreciate it.

Fan makes a loud clicking noise on start up and has lost its loud howl on start up as well,

If I spin the fan when cold it will not free wheel but is stiff then less stiff then stiff etc

After getting upto temp if I turn off it wi turn but not free wheel and definitely not locked

With AC on it would definitely engage after a while at idle but I’ve not noticed it

If anyone with the 4.4 TDV8 could do the following for me I’d really appreciate it before I order a replacement

.1. Test when cold does it spin freely etc

.2. Test when hot will it turn or is it locked up

Thanks in advance 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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Furnitureman



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Anyone able to just check there’s for me please 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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Furnitureman



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anyone 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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JayGee



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I'll test the fan cold when I get back from work later this afternoon 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Jayk69



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will check over the weekend i can check cold but have to wait to check hot as i need to replce top hose.

however i will say this

AC - does not engage the Viscous unit there is another electric fan for this that comes on when the AC is on. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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JayGee



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Doesn't spin free when cold on mine. Definitely feels like it's connected to something with 'drag' 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Re: Testing viscous fan

Furnitureman wrote:
I think mine is fubar but if anyone else can do some checks for me I would really appreciate it.

Fan makes a loud clicking noise on start up and has lost its loud howl on start up as well,

If I spin the fan when cold it will not free wheel but is stiff then less stiff then stiff etc

After getting upto temp if I turn off it wi turn but not free wheel and definitely not locked

With AC on it would definitely engage after a while at idle but I’ve not noticed it

If anyone with the 4.4 TDV8 could do the following for me I’d really appreciate it before I order a replacement

.1. Test when cold does it spin freely etc

.2. Test when hot will it turn or is it locked up

Thanks in advance


You are aware that the engine cooling fan is electrically controlled with a variable lockup clutch controlled by a PWM signal, aren't you? the checks above won't really tell you much about the correct operation of it.

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For additional airflow through the radiator matrix, particularly when the vehicle is stationary or slow moving,
there is an engine driven electro-viscous unit. This unit functions as a normal viscous fan, but with electronic
control over the level of engagement of the viscous clutch. The Engine Control Module (ECM), which
determines the required fan speed, controls the level of clutch engagement. The ECM determines engagement
based on the coolant, ambient and transmission oil temperatures and Air Conditioning (AC) system pressure.
The fan is mounted using a Left Hand (LH) thread.

The viscous fan unit is electronically controlled by the ECM to optimise fan speed for all operating conditions.

• NOTE: If the electrical connections to the viscous fan are disconnected the fan will 'idle' and overheating may
result. The ECM stores the appropriate fault codes in this case. A 'check engine light' will also be displayed in
the instrument cluster.


Last edited by Phoenix on 17th Nov 2022 7:52pm. Edited 1 time in total

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JayGee



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The fact that it makes a loud clicking sound would be enough for me know something is very wrong without any other tests. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Jayk69



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i get a ticking sound when i start cold as i understand things this is the VF i always thought it was the Heater thingy trying to fire up. anyhow the clicking stops as the car warms up. 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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JayGee wrote:
Doesn't spin free when cold on mine. Definitely feels like it's connected to something with 'drag'


Mine has drag when cold and hot 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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Furnitureman



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Jayk69 wrote:
will check over the weekend i can check cold but have to wait to check hot as i need to replce top hose.

however i will say this

AC - does not engage the Viscous unit there is another electric fan for this that comes on when the AC is on.


2012 tdv8 doesn't have a separate fan for the AC it got a electric clutch in it for the AC 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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JayGee



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Mine doesn't tick. It doesn't 'rev up' when started but does when moving off hot or cold. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Furnitureman wrote:
Jayk69 wrote:
will check over the weekend i can check cold but have to wait to check hot as i need to replce top hose.

however i will say this

AC - does not engage the Viscous unit there is another electric fan for this that comes on when the AC is on.


2012 tdv8 doesn't have a separate fan for the AC it got a electric clutch in it for the AC


I stand corrected i could have sworn i had a fan on front of the rad pack but alas no it does not, My TD6 defiantly did. appologies for the duff info Mr. Green 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

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Furnitureman



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No worries mate i appreciate you taking the time to try to help 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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kezbo1981



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Mine isn't a TDV8 but a 4.2 Supercharged. I also had a problem where the viscous fan made a loud metalic clicking noise when cold, it worked otherwise and cooled the car properly. I bought a new viscous fan as the noise became annoying.

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