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Haylands



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Cheap diagnostic tool that edits CCF...??

Came across this...

https://smartparts.uk/

Reads and clears faults, live values, key programming etc and also states it can edit the CCF....

Don't know if it's any good but if it does what it says on the tin then maybe it is....

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£70 is a very good price if it does what it claims...

only goes up to 2017 FF's though.... ... - .- -.




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Tiprat



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So let’s just say it can do these things, do you think it would be suitable for someone like me, who understands how to use a diagnostic tool, for clearing, diagnosing, operating things like the braking systems ect, but probably has used the diagnostic machine, to its full potential to buy and program keys on both the RR and a Jaguar instead of of going to a key specialist? I’ve never programmed modules but I’m guessing if one went I could learn?
What do others think?

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Going to watch this thread with interest and if someone knows it “can” do what it says, and the collective hive thinks il understand how to use it,I may well be tempted… Borrowed Grey 2002 3d 204k for a year
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No business address on their website, just an email. Stay well clear. And why so cheap? Stinks to high heaven of a con. Buy at your own peril.

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If you run into issues editing your CCF, you’re going to need the expertise of someone like Patrick at Gap. He’s got me out of a few holes over the years and I really wouldn’t mess around with it without knowing I could get expert support.

You pays your money and all that.

Maybe as an error reading/clearing device but definitely not for CCF work. Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
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Haylands



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Totally agree with the comments above but if someone is on a tight budget and wants to be a guinea pig....!! Just don't moan if you end up with a very expensive paperweight.... Whistle

Personally I'd use an IID every time.... Thumbs Up Pete
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False economy really. I'd rather spend £350 on an iid tool. As for budget, why have a range rover if you are going to skimp on cheap tacky parts for it? If you can afford to run and maintain a range rover then you can afford £350 for an iid tool. Sorry haylands, that's not directed at you.

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bigbo



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My reading on this is that this is just a Mongoose cable.
They are not supplying a device to do the diagnostics just a cable and the JLR SDD software on a USB memory stick.

These cables are easily available on eBay etc and preloaded laptops are often easily available as well.
What this company seems to have done is enabled SDD to run on any windows device not just Windows 7 or earlier.

My understanding is that SDD is JLR' own software that used to be used in all dealerships. What I don't know is what the licencing conditions are. ie is this pirated software or has JLR released on an open licence.

Any SDD users out there that may know?

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Haylands



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As the oldest L322's are now around £1000 there must be a market for cheap diagnostic equipment. People buying at that price point wont want to fork out 35 to 50% of the vehicle price on the class leading IID, but "maybe" this may help them out.

Obviously caveat emptor and due diligence apply... Thumbs Up Pete
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bigbo wrote:
My reading on this is that this is just a Mongoose cable.
They are not supplying a device to do the diagnostics just a cable and the JLR SDD software on a USB memory stick.

These cables are easily available on eBay etc and preloaded laptops are often easily available as well.
What this company seems to have done is enabled SDD to run on any windows device not just Windows 7 or earlier.

My understanding is that SDD is JLR' own software that used to be used in all dealerships. What I don't know is what the licencing conditions are. ie is this pirated software or has JLR released on an open licence.

Any SDD users out there that may know?

David


I'd say that's a pretty good summary of whats being offered, I wouldn't go anywhere near a Mongoose device unless it's an original (no longer available) and this will be a clone for the money. It would be ok for reading and clearing DTC's but no way for flashing ecu's or editing the CCF as the clones are prone to crash half way through a process and then you have a big problem.

With regards to SDD, this is stilll available but requires a full Topix subscription to run it, the supplied item will be cracked and I know from previous experience it will only work for a limited amount of time.

The only way to use SDD reliably is with the correct JLR VCI interface as below: -

https://jlrequipment.service-solutions.com...=JLR-00001

I have the above interface (which is good for vehicles upto 2017, then you need the DOIP interface & Pathfinder diagnostic software) and SDD, but hardly ever use it, it's great for flashing ecu's (as there are a few that the IID cannot do and it saves the GAP per ecu flash file cost).

Day-to Day, I just use IID, far quicker and simpler to use than SDD. Of course it goes without saying that if you are doing anything more than clearing faults, you should also be using a battery support unit as there is a massive current draw on the vehicle battery when flashing ecu's, this is the reason SDD will not allow you to continue diagnostics without a bettery support unit connected.

Bottom line is - don't waste your time or money! L405 SV Autobiography LWB SDV8, finished in Aston Martin China Grey by ETO division.

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Haylands



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Oh well... forget this one then... seems it's a bit of Censored

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2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
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Tiprat



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I wasn't interested in it for diagnosing problems I have an Autel MK808 which has served me great for the Range rover and other cars I end up working on. I was more interested in the statement that it can do keys, therefore letting me do a second key for the Range rover and also a jaguar..
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4RRS



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SDD will do keys on the L322 or L405, the latter needs a new KVM as they are locked to OTP (one time program), not sure I'd trust a mongoose clone though, case of pays your money and takes your chances applies here as in most things in life! L405 SV Autobiography LWB SDV8, finished in Aston Martin China Grey by ETO division.

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