Never played with the selector on any of my many auto's - unless parking up. Putting it into park scares the person behind as you go through R .... both ways! Land Rover Addict
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I've driven HGV,PCV and cars with AUTO, and it's never been mentioned or required during test to put vehicle in neutral if stopped for short periods.
Although, some large vehicles when the handbrake is applied disengage drive themselves, and as soon as handbrake is released engage drive by themselves automatically.

DMRR wrote:

Never played with the selector on any of my many auto's - unless parking up. Putting it into park scares the person behind as you go through R .... both ways!

I was under the impression that if you slide the selector through R to P without pausing the reversing lights would not activate. Similarly you don't get a flash of the reverse camera on the screen.
Might be talking out of my bits, its not unheard of

I tend to either slip it into Neutral or Park. Annoyingly, the rotary controller is poor for this (why won't pulling both paddles select neutral?).

I try not to sit with my foot on the brakes. High intensity LED brake lights boring into the eyes of the person behind is poor form, imho.

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I tend to either slip it into Neutral or Park. Annoyingly, the rotary controller is poor for this (why won't pulling both paddles select neutral?).

Doesn't feel like it.

Pretty sure I got told in no uncertain terms it does, and that's why it's better than the supercharged gearbox..... Land Rover Addict
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“Transmission Idle Control disengages 70 percent of the drive when the vehicle is stationary and the engine is idling in Drive, significantly reducing consumption in the urban cycle”.

http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/...ss_010411/

Phil

I used to work on Fork lift trucks and HGVs for 18 years prior to joining the police.

My experience of auto boxes, is that when you apply the brakes, it cuts the drive. Having said that, I agree that when you are the lights in a FFRR, it feels like it still wants to go. This puzzled me at first, as I'd not experienced this before on the vehicles I'd worked on. I'd never owned an auto prior to the FFRR either, so I was never sure whether it was "right".

I've started putting mine in neutral for long periods of standstill. With the 20" rims causing additional vibration, it's more comfortable as well. 2010 MY Vogue SE TDV8 3.6 Stornoway Grey- fully loaded

I've had lots of automatic cars and only the FFRR feel like it's wanting to go when left in gear at traffic lights

I have noticed the "wanting to go" feeling with a lot of "big engine" automatics to be honest. The more modern cars are now getting clutch disengage options though. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

I've driven Jags, Mercs, Audis, Rolls Royces, Daimlers, Bentleys and never felt them trying to move forward when in gear

My experience with autos (based on BMW 525i touring auto, merc e270CDI estate, RRS & now TDV8 FFRR) is that they all naturally 'creep' as the fluid is in constant circulation in the torque convertor. Normally there is not sufficient power to overcome a small gradient say, but on the flat or facing downhill the car would naturally move.

Also, I just hold the car on the brakes at the lights. If I am in a traffic jam and will be stationary for a long time then I will go into N or P and use the handbrake (but mainly so I can watch tv )

Simon

Almost all of the cars I have had in the past 25 years of driving have been, "autos" but I have no experience of post 04 cars. ALL my pre 04 cars I had crept in D so I always felt it was more efficient to slip it into P when stationary. 03 4.4 V8 petrol / lpg. 1st of many hopefully. I love my Rangie

I used to generally move into n when stationary so I didn't have to sit on the brakes and the rpm was lower (so presumably using less fuel)

However, my recent gearbox woes were diagnosed (correctly from this forum) on wear in the gearbox lever pivot thingy - presumably only made worse by moving it more... As a result I now leave in gear and apply the handbrake (which no doubt will also experience wear too...)