Well had the FF for 5 months and took it for a run out from Manchester to North Wales

All was going sweet until I got on the A55 and doing between 60 - 70 mls per hour..

All of a sudden the car started to rumble and chug (I can only describe it has a rumbling/juddering) with no loss of power it lasted for a couple of minutes then stopped...... Then back to running sweet again..... Then happened again and again all the way to wales and back again...

As it is intermittent, I will have trouble describing it to a garage

Anyone had this happen to them or can advise on what it might be,,

PS - It is still under Warranty

Trev Current Cars
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Last edited by Trev18 on 8th Oct 2013 2:10pm. Edited 3 times in total

Tricky one this. Rumbling/juddering.

Does it feel engine or gearbox?

There are a few threads on here re a sensation like a cattle grid, this would point towards a failing lock up clutch in the gearbox, however the fact it went away may point to more engine related problem.

Did it feel like it had lost power at the time almost like only running on 5 cyl. In which case it could point towards injectors.

Sure someone a lot more knowledgable will show up soon though. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Thanks... Lots of info on here regarding the Cattle Grid symptoms.... I will start with that at the garage......and see what the have to say...

Trev Current Cars
(Sold) Range Rover TD6 05 Vogue SE - 85k - Zambezi Silver - Black Leather..
Kia Ceed (4) 1.6 - 33k - Silver
Previous.
VW Golf 2008 2.0 SDI (With Add Ons) - 109k Silver
Vauxhall Zafira 2.2 Petrol SRI - with Ex Pack 32k -Turquoise (traded for the FFRR)

Maybe your fuel pump(s) are nearing the end of its/their lifespan and struggling to get enough fuel in. Just enough to not lose power but cause the juddering. Although I would expect some power loss in that case.

Have you checked the brakes ?? Signs of hot discs could be the infamous caliper issue (although that is more common on SCs) starting to act up.

What is the service history of the car ?? Gearbox, filters, fluids etc. ?? MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Something similar for me which turned out to be the injector wiring loom.....

Thanks guys - All options will be mentioned..

Booked in for Wednesday for a check over... I will let you know how we get on

Trev.. Current Cars
(Sold) Range Rover TD6 05 Vogue SE - 85k - Zambezi Silver - Black Leather..
Kia Ceed (4) 1.6 - 33k - Silver
Previous.
VW Golf 2008 2.0 SDI (With Add Ons) - 109k Silver
Vauxhall Zafira 2.2 Petrol SRI - with Ex Pack 32k -Turquoise (traded for the FFRR)

Update..

Well the lady was not playing up today...She was on her best behaviour

They had her plugged in - Nothing showing...

They took her for a long test drive trying to replicate the issue.. Nothing Showing..

It looks like its going to be a pain...... as he said she was running better than last time he saw her..

I will keep you updated....

Trev Current Cars
(Sold) Range Rover TD6 05 Vogue SE - 85k - Zambezi Silver - Black Leather..
Kia Ceed (4) 1.6 - 33k - Silver
Previous.
VW Golf 2008 2.0 SDI (With Add Ons) - 109k Silver
Vauxhall Zafira 2.2 Petrol SRI - with Ex Pack 32k -Turquoise (traded for the FFRR)

Think they call that sods law...

Update...

Took her for a spin today and she was in mood again, Chugging away......

Managed to speak to the garage and drove her to him and got him to test drive it and see for himself..... Result.....

Part ruled out engine, and brakes whilst driving her...... and thinking something transmission....

Got her booked in next Thursday for him to give her another once over...

I will keep you updated.

Trev.... Current Cars
(Sold) Range Rover TD6 05 Vogue SE - 85k - Zambezi Silver - Black Leather..
Kia Ceed (4) 1.6 - 33k - Silver
Previous.
VW Golf 2008 2.0 SDI (With Add Ons) - 109k Silver
Vauxhall Zafira 2.2 Petrol SRI - with Ex Pack 32k -Turquoise (traded for the FFRR)

Update ---

Great point raised earlier by a forum member....ebajema ---- Got it spot on.....

"Have you checked the brakes ?? Signs of hot discs could be the infamous calliper issue (although that is more common on SCs) starting to act up."

Whilst in they gave it a thorough check from front to back..

The issue identified has the back right brake calliper was faulty... and was locking up.... and damaged the disk.. also the Wear Sensor was loose !!!!........

Also identified.

NSF ball joint found to be worn
CV Boots insecure
Heater fan noisy when switched off....

Result..

Just picked it up... with the following supplied and fitted
2 new brake disks, brake pads and wire kit
Replacement of lower ball joint
CV boots secured... (I will be keeping an eye on these)
Replacement Heater Actuator...

Cost breakdown inc Fitting - Brakes £284.83 ..... Ball Joint and Heater £256.75

Result all covered by the garage....

Has negotiated 12 months warranty with them before purchase.

Trev.... Current Cars
(Sold) Range Rover TD6 05 Vogue SE - 85k - Zambezi Silver - Black Leather..
Kia Ceed (4) 1.6 - 33k - Silver
Previous.
VW Golf 2008 2.0 SDI (With Add Ons) - 109k Silver
Vauxhall Zafira 2.2 Petrol SRI - with Ex Pack 32k -Turquoise (traded for the FFRR)

Glad it's all fixed. Well done on giving the updates along the way. All too often people have a problem, ask for advice but never say how it all ends..  Previously..
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Ref the rear caliper - is your an '06 MY by any chance ? If so, then it'll have the TRW calipers. Both mine have had the same problem. Both cars '06MY, but neither was an SC !
The first sign on mine was the economy plummeting . . . . I don't know how you find out on an SC - it probably changes from mpg to gpm

 Where do you go after one of these . . . ?

Cool !!! Glad you have it sorted !!! MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Hi TugRR,

Not sure what you mean by 06MY.... or SC .....

Its a 55 plate Vogue SE...

I am looking forward to the better fuel economy........

Trev Current Cars
(Sold) Range Rover TD6 05 Vogue SE - 85k - Zambezi Silver - Black Leather..
Kia Ceed (4) 1.6 - 33k - Silver
Previous.
VW Golf 2008 2.0 SDI (With Add Ons) - 109k Silver
Vauxhall Zafira 2.2 Petrol SRI - with Ex Pack 32k -Turquoise (traded for the FFRR)

Sorry Trev, we get wrapped up with terminology not everybody knows the meaning of !

By SC - I mean the supercharged cars.
BY '06 MY -I mean 2006 model year. If your VIN number has a 6A in it - if it's a 55 reg it probably will - it will be 2006 model year.
There were some anomalies around that time regarding powertrain, electronics, brakes etc.
It seems all models around that time have problems with the rear calipers sticking, regardless of engine type.

 Where do you go after one of these . . . ?