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bebechoon



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L322 (2005) sunroof help, please!

I haven't found my particular problem discussed on here, but I'm convinced there will be someone out there who is knowledgeable on the sunroof on the L322 and will be able to guide me ...

I discovered recently that 4 or 5 of the 15 (?) screws, item HS2 on the diag, which hold down the clamping plate (item 721587B) are loose. From what I can see, whatever they screw into is rusty and no longer provides purchase for the screws.



I can’t see from a superficial inspection of the sunroof, nor from the diagram, what they screw into! In the diagram, there seem to be notches (marked with an arrow) but what holds the screw thread?

More importantly, does anyone know how to gain access to see what the problem is – and hopefully find a solution – without having to dismantle the whole sunroof (and the headlining …)? Would removing the glass give the access I need?

Any help would be gratefully received!
Thanks in advance It's "bĂ©bĂ©choon", ackcherly, with accents. 'Steve' to my chums.
20 years ownership of Solihull products, ALL GONE NOW, sniff!
Current motor: Suzuki S-Cross 4WD auto, 1.4 petrol. Oh so reliable! 7 years now and no problems. Oh, all right then, a leaking shocker replaced under guarantee.
Previous:
TD6 HSE L322 Auto FF
2.5 TDi 4-door Classic
Disco II
And my 1st Rangie: in 1995, a 2-door VM 2.5 diesel Classic
Not to mention the Lada Niva before those. (I said not to mention it!)

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SteveyD



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Bonjour!

I have recently removed my headlining to have it re-trimmed so know exactly what you are talking about. The screws actually fasten into a plastic bezel that is bonded to the headlining, it's part of the method used to hold the headlining in place. If only a few are loose I would not worry too much. If it is causing you great concern then perhaps you could remove them and replace them with like for like. If the plastic part that they screw into is corroded, or the hole hase became too big, perhaps you could fill the holes with a resin glue before screwing into it.

The chances are that the headlining in your car has been removed previously for some reason?

Hope that all makes sense.

IMO since you still have 14 other screws in place, as long as it is not 4 consecutive screws that are loose, everything should be ok.

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bebechoon



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Hi, SteveyD, that’s really helpful, thanks. I knew there’d be someone on this wonderful forum! Thumbs Up

One of the screws is so loose that nothing seems to be holding it in place, and from the top I can see nothing that resembles the plastic bezel you mention. Perhaps it’s gone AWOL!

The whole front left corner of the clamping plate is a bit wobbly as 3 of the loose screws are consecutive, so I’ll have to have another look when I have more time.

But from your experience, do you think I could get access to these without removing the headlining? As far as I am aware it has not been removed before and it’s a job I don’t fancy … Big Cry It's "bĂ©bĂ©choon", ackcherly, with accents. 'Steve' to my chums.
20 years ownership of Solihull products, ALL GONE NOW, sniff!
Current motor: Suzuki S-Cross 4WD auto, 1.4 petrol. Oh so reliable! 7 years now and no problems. Oh, all right then, a leaking shocker replaced under guarantee.
Previous:
TD6 HSE L322 Auto FF
2.5 TDi 4-door Classic
Disco II
And my 1st Rangie: in 1995, a 2-door VM 2.5 diesel Classic
Not to mention the Lada Niva before those. (I said not to mention it!)

Post #339320 27th Jul 2015 11:37am
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SteveyD



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No problem. Sounds a bit odd that one, the bezel is one piece and is bonded to the headlining so to access the actual bezel itself you need to drop the headlining, it's not a big job but a bit pointless is say. To drop the headlining you need to remove all pillar trims, interior light, grab handles and retainer hooks and the 15 screws in the sunroof. Doing that would let you drop it and see what's going on. Failing that, try removing all 15 screws and gently pulling it down by the sunroof void, to get the rear screws you might need to remove the sliding cover. To do that you need to remove both gators on the sides of the sunroof glass, then the 3 screws on each side, pop the glass out then pull the cover forward, then remove the 4 screws (outside) then slide the cover away.

if your roof lining is not sagging, water damaged or looking loose, repair what you can without dismantling would be the best way Smile

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can you not use slightly bigger screws to compensate for the larger holes?. ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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Post #339325 27th Jul 2015 12:05pm
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SteveyD



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Longer or thicker screws may crack the plastic that they are screwing into, filling the holes with resin and using the original screws would be better. Trial and error I guess.

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bebechoon



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OK, thanks all Thumbs Up
Further investigation from me required to see what's up and what's the best solution.
But your pointers are most helpful Bow down
I'll try to remember to post an update of my findings/solution when I get round to doing it! It's "bĂ©bĂ©choon", ackcherly, with accents. 'Steve' to my chums.
20 years ownership of Solihull products, ALL GONE NOW, sniff!
Current motor: Suzuki S-Cross 4WD auto, 1.4 petrol. Oh so reliable! 7 years now and no problems. Oh, all right then, a leaking shocker replaced under guarantee.
Previous:
TD6 HSE L322 Auto FF
2.5 TDi 4-door Classic
Disco II
And my 1st Rangie: in 1995, a 2-door VM 2.5 diesel Classic
Not to mention the Lada Niva before those. (I said not to mention it!)

Post #339329 27th Jul 2015 12:24pm
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