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PeeJayBee



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2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Alaska White
2009 TDV8 Battery AGM or not

Hi, looking for help in deciding which type of battery my RR needs. I bought a 2009 3.6 TDV8 Vogue SE 3 years ago from a non-LR Dealer. He had fitted a new 019 AGM type battery which now needs replacing, which seems a little soon to me, and if I sit in the car with the radio on the "Low Battery" message pops up almost immediately. I have checked the charging voltage at 14.2V. When I previously took the car into my local Indie dealer for service, he said I had the wrong battery and the AGM was only introduced with the 4.4V8. Other people have said all MY2010 L322 need AGM. My car is 2009, but has LCD dash and push button start and I beleive it to be a MY2010. Loging in to totalcarcheck says it is a 2010. Can anyone tell me if there is a definitive way of knowing which type of battery my car needs. I have read many of the threads on here, and found many interesting opinions/dabates about the advantage of each, but I would just like to fit the correct battery as designed. Thanks

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AndyW970



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

I have a 2010 MY 3.6 TDV8 and the battery in mine is not an AGM - it came with an EXIDE 020 ordinary battery that I replaced with a Yuasa equivalent 110a/h 900a battery just before Christmas.

I read through the battery threads on here before I replaced it and came to the conclusion that I believe my car should have had an 019 standard battery in it from the factory but the previous owner had shoehorned in the biggest capacity battery he could get; I went for the same.

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MikeO



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Scotland 2009 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Do you have Stop-Start? That's the main reason an AGM battery will be introduced. 2009 FF Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue
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drakes



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I understood that the AGM battery was introduced with the digital instrument display and that these cars have a different charging software. So the earliest cars with AGM are 3.6's and do not have stop start.

I am sure cam tec craig has confirmed this in the past 2010 3.6TDV8 Stornoway Grey/ Black interior
2005 4.4V8 (M62) Bonatti Grey/ Parchment interior - gone
1998 4.6HSE Blue/ Cream interior (can't remember exact colours) - gone
1977 White - gone (should have kept)

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Bloke



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There's two types of stop/start compliant batteries. AGM & EFB.

I've used AGM in bikes before and while they're good, they don't like becoming discharged and if abused die and can't be brought back to life.

Chuck your reg number in here and see what it suggests?

https://www.batterymegastore.co.uk/

Important thing beyond the physical fit is the CCA. Cold Cranking Amps, the higher the better!

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MikeO



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Scotland 2009 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

drakes wrote:
I understood that the AGM battery was introduced with the digital instrument display and that these cars have a different charging software. So the earliest cars with AGM are 3.6's and do not have stop start.

I am sure cam tec craig has confirmed this in the past

You may well be right. What I was trying to say (not very clearly) is if you have stop-start, AGM would definitely have been the original fitment. That's not to say that earlier, digital dash 3.6s didn't have it too. 2009 FF Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue
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Post #543916 14th Feb 2020 6:59pm
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S.Hafsmo



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Norway 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Orkney Grey

I installed an AGM in my 07 TDV8, and I'm very pleased with the result.
No issues even in very cold weather with only short drives and all heating options turned on. Including 30m Webasto pre-heating before starting.

Constant issues under these conditions with the old "regular"battery. And it wasn't even very old.
Mind you, it could have been damaged by being completely discharged by the previous owner. 2007 L322 3.6 TDV8 Stornoway

Post #543918 14th Feb 2020 7:24pm
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dingg1



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2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Stornoway Grey

Went from a normal 020 battery that gave up the ghost after 18 months to an 019 agm.
Agm has been perfect, I will not go back to the normal battery, and forget about the bollix of intelligent charging and all that nonsense - just fit agm imo

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

I wasn’t aware any L322 had stop/start, so that shouldn’t be a factor.

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #543923 14th Feb 2020 9:01pm
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GGDR



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

As I understand it the 2009 facelift (3.6TD and 5.0, then the 4.4TD in 2010) which has the LCD dash included a revised charging system to address tendency to drain.

019 AGM Batteries are part of that revised charging system.

020 batteries, whether AGM or not are fitted by some owners who want a bit more capacity.
It's a very tight squeeze but they do fit.

AGM is a better battery, whether 019 or 020. More expensive but better technology.

The stop start button was included in the 2009 facelift but Stop start technology in relation to batteries means the engine stops at traffic lights and starts the engine again when you take off again. It's to save emissions and needs a specific battery because it uses the battery a lot. It came in on the 405 at some point but's not fitted to L322's so unrelated to the OP.

. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway


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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Wow, looks like it’s around £450 for an 020 Bosch AGM.....

Shocked 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

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MikeO



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Scotland 2009 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

GGDR wrote:
It's not fitted to L322's so unrelated to the OP.

Sorry for confusion in that case. I thought it was fitted to 4.4s and potentially some of the digital dash 3.6s. 2009 FF Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue
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<gone>2009 D3 HSE Galway Green</gone>

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alanm_3



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Scotland 2008 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

Based on my previous post regarding my battery/alternator issues, I took my old battery back to ECP to swap under warranty. As luck would have it, their system was down, so I managed to get an AGM 019 for £60.

I’m still not convinced it’s fixed my problems but either way, I’ve got a nice new battery Thumbs Up Got - 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

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