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MonteCarlo



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Fox889 wrote:
I love these stories, please carry on, addictive reading.
I have a bench in the garage knocked up from spare pieces of wood to clean my mats on or occasionally the use of the outside dustbin..........others have posh metal benches to do their work upon............you sir, on the other hand, have a series one Rolls Royce Silver Shadow? How neat is that!

Good read sir, 'keep calm & carry on'


Than you very much!

Very kind words, the old Roller is a handy table Rolling with laughter

The old Rangie is a labour of love! Wink

I'll be carrying on! Mr. Green Thumbs Up MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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Tugger wrote:
Great story, you are doing an amazing job bringing the old girl back to life. The interior especially has come up a real treat. Loving your attention to detail and powers of investigation. Thumbs Up

Will be following this with huge interest.


Thank you!

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Love these old Rangies Mr. Green MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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Where was I Question

Oh yes..

The AMP is a genuine Harman unit and they're almost obsolete, however if your're willing to search the web you can find, a bargain..

In my case this AMP is a part that runs in excess of £600 2nd hand!!! Bow down

However i found one in NZ for £150 the postage was hilarious though, still cheaper than some! Mr. Green



The unit sits behind the plastic rear paneling..

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Oh and I wiped over the dash top....



Censored


More to come.. MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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The rear interior paneling was refittted, I'd like to do a "how to" but in fairness all P38's react differently.

in my case it took 3 minutes to disassemble, and 3 hours to reassemble!! Whistle

Before.




The rear inner wings were also sanded down and repainted all in an effort to stop any rust..

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And after!


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The boot space once reassembled, new clips were used. Cool



I'd say at that point it was 75% there Thumbs Up MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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A little detail this time.. Razz

The Gearknob AKA ET's head after brain surgery and the handbrake had worn to a matt finish, they also had scratches on them Evil or Very Mad




I rummaged through my shed and couldn't find any suitable libations to smother on them..

After raiding the shoe care kit i found some "SHOE RESTORER" Bow down what could go wrong?

A good coat was put on and left to dry...







And fitted Whistle



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MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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The "biggie"

After 2 years of inactivity the BeCM was sent off to a pro to be rebuilt...

He is known as MartyUK on other RR sites and it a Legend in his own right, i sent to BEcm to him on a Monday and i had it back fixed by Thursday! Mr. Green

The hole it has to fill.

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The seat is easy to fit, just 4 t50 torz bolts..



And fitted... Twisted Evil


THE BIG START Bow down


It had sat for almost 2 years, Rolling with laughter

Naturally you would do precautionary measures, however fueled with excitement I just turned the key! Rolling with laughter

It roared into life like any old RV8 and settled down to a slightly tappety albiet good idle..

Chuffed I was!!

The seat was tightened down



And her first drive in 2 years! Rolling with laughter

I just turned her around lol

before.




And after!



The EAS rose straight up after years of inactivity and the gearbox worked as expected..

Which is a surprise!! Twisted Evil

I put some of her interior back in, and this rounds off this post..

Threw the door card back on..



Finished off the boot Bow down




And there we go!! MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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"More interior shenanigans"

The refitting of the plastic trim can commence! Whistle

During/before



And the big reveal!!

It smells feels and is an improvement from before, i hope ya'll think so too Mr. Green

Amazing what colour it should be!!

Plastics were refitted with new clips. Thumbs Up






A new luggage cover was sourced at great difficulty off of ebay to complete the boot area..




And here she is "semi" complete! Bow down



Thumbs Up MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #548481 27th Mar 2020 9:34pm
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MonteCarlo



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"electrical"

Next issue was the famous P38 battery drain, i had removed the RF reciever and done a few checks, and after much headache came to the conclusion that the battery was knackered..

A good way to tell is if it is bulging, a charged/good battery won't freeze, a discharged one will and as water expands when frozen the body of the battery usually bulges, which is why batteries fail in the winter Cool

Mine was knackered and only lasted maybe 12hrs before going flat..

Out with the old..



And in with the New NUMAX tractor battery!! Whistle



It spins over like a top and doesn't go flat!!

Barely fits in the tray too!!! Wink
result! Bow down Thumbs Up MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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ilard



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I love everything about this thread. And I love everything about this awesome fatty. Invigorating. Thumbs Up

My sister had a 1999 ish P38 AB, all black it was, and you just can’t compare to the vibrancy of yours, MonteCarlo. But I loved to drive it on the odd occasion I was allowed back then. She only ever fuelled it to half full because she was embarrassed about the cost when she went to pay. Constantly ran it on the fuel light. I suggested that if she continued with this inexplicable aversion to filling-her-up then to at least do it once and thereafter just refill at 50% (which was probably after 125 miles of driving!!) instead of running near empty, but she never did. She never had another Range Rover. But to this day she says it was the best car she ever owned. L405 P400e Autobiography (MY2020)... Silicon Silver / Espresso

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Thanks!! Thumbs Up do love the Autobiography's

I understand the fueling predicament, when i bought it in 2017 petrol was 1.45 a litre and LPG was 70ppl

If i filled both tanks from empty it was £140 for the petrol and £60 for the LPG Twisted Evil Censored

So £200 Big Cry

Coupled with the fact it was doing 11mpg on petrol and 8mpg on Gas because of lambda and MAF faults made for a very expensive wagon..

She does around 19mpg on both now! Whistle

Fuel is a tad cheaper too!!

I was on first name terms with the local Shell cashier!

"you again" was the usual greeting!! Rolling with laughter MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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"A step back in time"

If you're like me in any way, you'll be intrigued to find out your cars previous "life" Mr. Green

In my case The V5's of a few owners was left in the service history with the car..

So summoning the GCSE in english I wrote a proper letter to one of the previous owners who had her from 2010-2015

Thinking I wouldn't get a response i posted it.... Whistle

After a week i got an email from the chap, a gent he is too!!

I got pictures from years ago and a full history! Bow down

Turns out he had spent £7000 on maintenance replacing almost everything on the car!! Rolling with laughter

Here are some piccies from circa 2010












Twisted Evil

It was a great looking machine at one time Rolling with laughter

happy wasn't the word!! Mr. Green MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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Right...

So i was retisant about doing this but i'm gonna skip right to 2020 and miss out most of early 2019 in this update..

Future updates will be filling in the gaps from July 2018 to December 2019..

"MOT PREP"

Up until this point it had sat around doing nothing for up to 2 years ocassionally coming out to free up the brakes, she lives on a farm with plenty of private lanes, however i wasn't expecting miracles in regards the MOT.

Here she is sitting!! Bow down



Peeling it off FNARR!! Rolling with laughter






I threw the terminals back on the battery and turned the key... Whistle

She fired into life with a rumble and she was pulled out Bow down



Posing shots = PHOTOBOMB!!















Right now thats over and i got the tyres dirty there were a few apparent issues.

Chief among which was the Autobox was stuck in 1st, which is a common issue with the Governor valve in the box, oh and the brakes made a horrific noise. Whistle

1st Job was the brakes, i had refreshed these before i bought it "Que old photo of brake disc" Big Cry

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Only a tad crispy, in its defence the brakes weren't half bad............................ They were ALL BAD!! Mr. Green

This time however the noise was caused by the brake dust shields on the front.. Censored

So off with its head!! "ahem" wheels... Bow down




Wheels are held on with 27mm lugs, the calipers are 12mm and the carriers are Bi hex 13mm jobbies which are a pain in the arse to remove!!

In my case i had to resort to some drastic action!! Bow down

I couldn't get enough purchase on it to free off the bolt, so some "out of the box thinking" was required!

Turns out this Jack is useful after all....



To mus surprise it worked and i had the carrier off! Laughing

The Disc is retained by a pozi screw, mine came out quite easily..

And here is the issue!





Nowt much left of that, to my surprise the 8mm securing screws came out without an issue, and in minutes i had a pile of scrap!!



At this point i put the securing bolts back in to stop an crap getting inside the threads, this also allowed me to secure any new shields i might want to reinstall!!

Plenty of grease used!!



The Bi hex bolts were re-used and cleaned off.



It was also at this point that i threw on some Jelonite to help quell the bran flakes that were falling off whenever i used the BFH..



Horrible stuff that i won't use again!! Yawn

The parts were thrown back on with new pads..




And done!!



Mr. Green MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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A long hiatus since last posting! Laughing

Anyway continuing along with the brake shield saga.

Off with the Comets, Wink they were treated to a wipe over when removed Mr. Green



This is the state of play for the front NS disk shield, not as bad as the OS but getting there!
And in my opinion these shields only cause issues!!



Removing the disc is the same as the other side, only this side was less of a problem!



In an effort to make the underside look more presentable i attacket the Bran flakes that were falling off the cast steel knuckle when i was clouting the disc with the hammer!!

I ran it over with a course wire wheel and painted some rust cure on it to halt the corrosion.



A coat of paint later and....



looks a good sight better!

The caliper and carrier were also treated to some paint..




once all dry the brakes were reassembled, with a coat of silver on the disk hat!!



looks better "to me" LOL

Whistle Laughing MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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MonteCarlo



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This is more of a "back to the future" update as all my pictures are in a jumbled mess and i have a terrible memory!! Laughing

Anyway, i'm a sucker for cosmetics on a car and in a few months she's getting MOT'd and having her look good underneath will sure help sway the tester Wink

At the moment she doesnt look too pretty.. Embarassed





Like the chassis, i gave it a wire brush and paint..

The results are hard to picture but it looks a good bit better than it first did!





The shiny finish was in part due to the paint I used which was a glossy enamel chassis paint.. Rolling with laughter
After a while it has lost its sheen, which i'm glad about and it looks more "factory" which i'm happy with.. MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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Next up some more mechanical than cosmetic fettling. Laughing

The Transfer box on these is a 2 spd Borg Warner affair, and it a robust unit, however oil services should be kept up to ensure the hideously expensive Morse chain doesn't wear prematurely. Rolling Eyes

When i bought her back in 2017 I changed all the oils and used an ECP "own brand" Triple qx in it, which i'm not entirely happy with..

So in an effort to extend the life of the box i changed it out for a more premium project.. Thumbs Up

Mannol is a pretty well known German brand, and their oils are pretty good..



You will also note the syringe which is essential when doing this job..

Both the filler and drain plugs are 1/2 square, i used a small breaker bar to crack them off, the filler being the first!



The drain is around 2 litres, i used an old oil container..

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This oil has 700mi on it and is rather discoloured, which does concern me, but being a cheap oil it was probably breaking down under the heat!!

The filling procedure is rather straight forward it takes 2.2 litres which is 4 of these syringes "roughly"



Once oil drips out the filler hole you're done!!

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DONE!!

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A slightly different procedure to the Torsen diff in the L322, but still fun! Rolling with laughter MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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