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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Funnily enough Pete they were one of the first things I changed on wifey's 322...
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Haylands



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Hope you did these as well Craig..... Whistle

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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I sandblasted and repainted them Pete Embarassed Along with the striker plates and NS mirror base on the Aston...

Aerosol cans of Simoniz Tough Black work wonders Thumbs Up
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Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
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2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click here for Project Fatty off roader-
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Haylands



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Right... the fuelling issue is sorted..... Very Happy Thumbs Up Very Happy

All 510 odd horses have returned to the stable...

As a recap... floor it and on wide open throttle above about 4000rpm it would hesitate and then finally "BONG" restricted performance, turn it off and on and everything was fine until next time... been like it a while now and not really much of a problem under normal driving...

It threw a P0087-00 low fuel pressure fault but not every time, mostly it threw no fault codes even though it had gone into restricted performance...

The JLR work through for that code is

Fuel Leak
Crushed fuel pipe
Fuel filter
Fuel rail pressure sensor
Lift pump (in tank)

(No mention of the high pressure pumps)

All those were checked or replaced with no difference whatsoever....

I then had a look around the USA Jaguar forums and found four instances of the same fault/symptoms and three were sorted by replacing the high pressure mechanical fuel pumps. The forth also had multiple misfire faults and needed new injectors as well...

New pumps were sourced

JLR part number LR011308

These are Bosch pumps and fit a lot of vehicles, either singly or in pairs...

Bosch part number 0 261 520 045

Other part numbers...8W93-9D376-AE / 0 261 520 046 / HDP-5-PE / AJ812357 / C2Z22287

Then came the fun part... I had read various ways to get to these pumps which are bolted to the bottom of the block on the off side. Most went in from the top by removing the alternator but after lots of head scratching and consultation with my mate who owns the garage the best plan seemed to be to remove the O/S/F drive shaft to allow a sideways assault on the pesky pumps, going in from the top means working blind to a large degree..... to prevent the hassle of getting the driveshaft out and then back into the hub I just removed the whole hub, suspension arms and shaft in one lump, after the disc and calliper were removed...




The location of the rear pump is shown in red, the front in Yellow...


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You can then get past the subframe and remove the starter and associated wiring, which allows removal of the rear pump. You then have sideways access to the front pump and it was all looking good until you unbolt it and try to get it out, it hits the steering rack before it clears the block... so, unbolt the ARB from the other side, then unbolt the rack and there is just enough room to get the pump out without anything else needing doing...

Reassembly was a reversal as they say... Engine oil was dropped beforehand as it will leak out of the pump holes in the block... The pumps are mechanically driven by a separate camshaft driven from the crankshaft.

New oil and filter, top up the power steering fluid and front diff and turn the key....

Everything fine and no faults bonging, always a good sign... Thumbs Up

A short, but rapid, test drive confirmed that acceleration was smooth and with no dropping into restricted performance, it feels far more keen at partial throttle as well.

All in it took around nine hours from start to finish, could probably knock a couple off next time, it was not particularly hard to do, just time consuming...

I'm a happy bunny... Thumbs Up Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
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2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click here for Project Fatty off roader-
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mjdronfield



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Cracking job. Gonna be one of the fastest people coming out of lockdown now 🤣

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2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport
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Bl4ckD0g



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Wow! Well done! Just shows that finding access is the hard part, not changing the damn things. I bet sharing that route will be very useful for many others.
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Haylands



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Thanks chaps, yep, it's finding what to replace that is the challenge... fixing it is just nuts and bolts... or a laptop and software..!! Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
-Click here for Thread-
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click here for Project Fatty off roader-
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dhallworth



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That's great that you've got it fixed, Pete!

Always satisfying when you get to the bottom of a fault that's been annoying.

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2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Well done sir Thumbs Up Bow down
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Haylands



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Thanks guys... Thumbs Up Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
-Click here for Thread-
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click here for Project Fatty off roader-
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Haylands



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The steering wheel was a few degrees off straight after taking off all that suspension... didn't pull at all but annoys my OCD something terrible...

Took it to the tyre shop I use, they have a laser 4 wheel jobbie... the guy couldn't get the nearside track rod end loose... He tried twice with the oxyacetylene but to no avail and he was getting close to the ARB drop link so I said I'd do it and bring it back...

Popped to my mates, it was well stuck, had to get serious with the heat to free it off.....




It finally succumbed and the steering wheel is straight again... Thumbs Up

After getting all the horses back, fatty is not doing very many MPG... can't understand why... Whistle Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
-Click here for Thread-
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click here for Project Fatty off roader-
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MR GLOVER



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got to be better than 13-14 mpg round town
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

My driving is more urban than town and my average is showing 14... Whistle Pete
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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
-Click here for Thread-
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand Sold
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click here for Project Fatty off roader-
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Now I remember why I bought one powered by devils juice. I wear heavy shoes and really don’t see worse than 27 average.... There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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