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Jayk69



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Barolo Black

this just prompted me to order some oil so i can service mine Rolling with laughter Bow down 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
2014 Navara V6 - Gone
2004 Vogue TD6 - Gone
Grand Cherokee - Gone
Discovery V8 (LPG) - Gone
Discovery TD5 - Gone

Post #601867 26th Jul 2021 3:26pm
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dhallworth



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Location: Glasgow
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

I changed the oil on mine in January/February when I got my car.

Unfortunately, I think I've bought a car that's lived in the city all of it's life and hasn't been changed between High and Low range as it seems to have grenaded itself when I switched to Low range.

I usually switch then between High and Low a couple of times a week when sitting at traffic lights or the likes just to keep everything moving. I'll keep doing it if it saves my transfer box!

The transfer box takes 1.5 litres of oil, I had half a litre left from February so I've just been to the local dealer to grab a litre of oil today so that I can get this back together tonight. Transfer box oil makes V-Power look cheap! Including VAT it was 29.96 a litre!!

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #601871 26th Jul 2021 4:12pm
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ur20v



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A Trap 

One thing I have noted, auto boxes like Diesel engines look like you never changed the oil after a few miles, there are to many oil passages, cooler and lines plus the torque converter… these hold approximately 4 liters oil that doesn’t get changed with a simple pan off oil change.

Post #601878 26th Jul 2021 6:02pm
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dhallworth



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

The gearbox is around 100kg and the transfer box is around 40kg. With oil, they’re both probably just over 150kg combined.

I’m glad to say that the RR is back together, changing range and driving perfectly!



I fitted the new transfer box and then tried to clear all the codes so I coUtd recalibrate the transfer box. I was getting frustrated as it wouldn’t calibrate. Then it dawned on me I’d left the main loom unplugged from the gearbox as I’d unplugged it to avoid stretching it when dropping the box down slightly.

I reconnected it and then the calibration of the transfer box position sensor and clutches worked perfectly using my IID tool.

I’ve done 20 miles in it tonight and it’s driving perfectly. I’m a bit annoyed that I changed the gearbox as I’m not convinced mine was broken, however, the new box is much smoother then the old one despite it having had new solenoids fitted in January.

I took my brave pill and then switched it to Low Range and drove it for around 1/2 mile in Low Range too so I’m quite happy everything is working as it should now!

The transfer box arrived empty of oil but thankfully I’d been to the dealer and bought oil for it today. It takes 1.5 litres of oil and Land Rover only sell it by the litre for £29.96! Thankfully when I’d changed it in January I’d kept the last 1/2 litre so I only needed one bottle today!

Normal service has definitely resumed! I just need to drive it nicely for a few hundred miles to let the gearbox adaptions settle in again now!



I’ll try and get around to figuring out how the rest of the old transfer box comes apart later in the week too. I’m keen to try and figure out what went wrong with it.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #601926 27th Jul 2021 12:15am
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bigbo



Member Since: 07 Jul 2014
Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

I agree that oil is one hell of a price, I wonder why they dont sell it in 1.5L bottles or in 1/2L bottles.

Looking forward to seeing the inside of the transfer box.

Pleased the car is now back to full health.

David Range Rover 4.2 Supercharged 2006
Ford Focus EcoBoost 1.5 2017
MG TF 2003

Previous Cars of note
Land Rover Discovery 2
Jaguar Mk2 3.8 - Company car
MG Midget 1974 - Concours

Post #601927 27th Jul 2021 12:38am
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dhallworth



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

Censored Censored Censored Censored

I’ve just had the Range Rover for a run up the motorway as last night it was just A roads and B roads I took it on.

There’s a loud whining noise that’s coming from it that wasn’t there before all of this. I‘ve got a funny feeling it’s coming from the transfer box as it sounds like it’s emanating from the centre of the car.

I now need to decide if I can be bothered removing the transfer box for a 3rd time Censored Big Cry

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #602027 27th Jul 2021 9:47pm
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bigbo



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

Censored hell David, life's not being very fair.

I hope you do find the will to have another go, I feel for you.

David Range Rover 4.2 Supercharged 2006
Ford Focus EcoBoost 1.5 2017
MG TF 2003

Previous Cars of note
Land Rover Discovery 2
Jaguar Mk2 3.8 - Company car
MG Midget 1974 - Concours

Post #602029 27th Jul 2021 10:06pm
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Bean19844



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Bonatti Grey

That's really crappy luck man. Sleep on it for the night n think about it another time. Only good thing for you would be least you know how it all comes apart and should be a fairly easy job too take off now

Post #602031 27th Jul 2021 10:17pm
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dhallworth



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

There’s a 1 month warranty on the transfer box so I’m going to ring the supplier tomorrow and see what they say I think. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #602033 27th Jul 2021 10:26pm
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Bean19844



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Bonatti Grey

Seems like a good shout that. Least it comes with the warranty.

Post #602034 27th Jul 2021 10:28pm
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

That really is bad luck, are they exchanging it..? Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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Post #602106 28th Jul 2021 4:47pm
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dhallworth



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

I didn’t get time to phone them today as works been busy.

I took it out for a run this evening with the wife driving so I could crawl around putting my ear to things in the car. I’m pretty sure the noise isn’t the rear prop shaft so that leaves the transfer box or gearbox.

The noise is definitely coming from between the front seats, it’s worse when under load and quietens on overrun. Changing the gears manually from 6 - 5 - 4 doesn’t affect the frequency of the noise but it does sound a bit louder in 4th gear then it is in 5th gear and it’s louder in 5th then it is in 6th.

The gearbox came from a 2004 car that had done 93k miles, going by the stickers on the box and the date on the sump the gearbox was replaced in 2014 so it’s not very old and hasn’t done many miles. The gear change on it is beautifully smooth too so I don’t think it’s likely to be the gearbox.

If I was going to guess I’d say it’s definitely going to be the transfer box but I’m unsure how I can be certain and unless I’m certain I don’t want to change the transfer box again. Big Cry

In a moment of madness I stuck the details into We Buy Any Car earlier, they offered me just shy of £8k for it so I’m sorely tempted to cut my losses and jump but I’ve done so much to it and come so far part of me doesn’t want to give up either.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #602113 28th Jul 2021 7:41pm
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bigbo



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

That looks a great price from wbac, dont forget they nearly always drop the price when you get to the drop off centre, so I would say you may get 7500.
From what you've said on the forum before I think that would return you a good profit, so as you say tempting.

If it was me, I too am getting very attached to my SC, I would strip the transfer box you removed and see if it can be rebuilt, using the manual it looks quite straight forward.
At least that way you know the box you are putting back will be a good one.

David Range Rover 4.2 Supercharged 2006
Ford Focus EcoBoost 1.5 2017
MG TF 2003

Previous Cars of note
Land Rover Discovery 2
Jaguar Mk2 3.8 - Company car
MG Midget 1974 - Concours

Post #602122 28th Jul 2021 9:01pm
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dhallworth



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

From what I’ve spent on it doing all of the jobs I’ve done trying to make it perfect there’s not much profit in it at that but I wouldn’t be loosing anything either.

I’ve been looking at newer ones, L405’s, RRS SDV8, SC’s and SVR’s but the market prices are up hugely compared to 12 months ago and I’m not buying in whilst they’re inflated so I’m leaning towards repairing this one this evening now I’ve calmed down a bit.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #602127 28th Jul 2021 9:20pm
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dhallworth



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

Have just spoken to them about replacing the transfer box. Apparently they don't have another one so I've asked if I can return it and be refunded so that I can source another.

The lad on the phone didn't have authorisation to agree so I'm waiting for a call back from the boss.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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