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Mike Edwards

Member Since: 13 Feb 2021
Location: Northampton
Posts: 223

2013 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Causeway Grey

Handbrake Shoe Replacement Issues

I replaced the handbrake shoes the other day. I had no issues afterwards but rarely check whether the handbrake actually holds the car on a slope.

Off to the MOT this morning so thought I should try the bedding in procedure. Everything seemed fine until I put the handbrake on at the MOT garage.

Lots of unpleasant noises from the rear end and pinging from the dash telling me I had a parking brake fault.

C1A46-64 Mismatch between motor drive current and resistant force.

Had to drive home with a clear issue, particularly on one side. Found the upper rear side of the new shoe completely worn down but no real idea about what had gone wrong.

Aside from possibly getting the adjuster wheel between the bottom of the shoes facing the wrong way everything appears okay.

Any ideas what I should be looking for?

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12th Feb 2022 11:14am

kevinp

Member Since: 28 Sep 2019
Location: Telford
Posts: 1113

2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

Blimey Mike that is a mess.
Did you remember to adjust the shoes tight up to the drum and then back them off about 6 clicks?

12th Feb 2022 12:23pm

nicedayforit

Member Since: 11 Jun 2011
Location: Beside the Solway
Posts: 3954

2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Giverny Green

I’m always surprised handbrake shoes wear on cars, why should they, you only apply the handbrake when the car is stationary so how come they wear?
Or are a lot of cars driving round with badly adjusted handbrakes wasting fuel.

12th Feb 2022 12:34pm

Mike Edwards

Member Since: 13 Feb 2021
Location: Northampton
Posts: 223

kevinp wrote:
Blimey Mike that is a mess.
Did you remember to adjust the shoes tight up to the drum and then back them off about 6 clicks?

I followed the workshop manual that says to back them off 8 clicks.

I suspect the EPB bedding in procedure meant the EPB module ran out of adjustment and slipped off the end of the gear which is what is making the noise.

Now I am unable to release the handbrake, either via the red loop under the cup holder or the loop in the boot. Probably not pulling hard enough but can’t pull any harder.

12th Feb 2022 12:45pm

JayGee

Member Since: 27 Jul 2021
Location: London
Posts: 2665

2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Ah the joys of drum brakes....
8 clicks sounds a lot. When I was looking at some videos of shoe replacement it was back it off just enough to free the friction which was also how I remember doing it on old cars. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

12th Feb 2022 1:03pm

kevinp

Member Since: 28 Sep 2019
Location: Telford
Posts: 1113

I know it doesn't help now but when I replaced mine I didn't do the reset and it holds perfect.
Hope you can sort it.

12th Feb 2022 1:56pm

JayGee

Member Since: 27 Jul 2021
Location: London
Posts: 2665

Just read the bedding in procedure and it looks both complicated and impractical unless you have access to a private road. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

12th Feb 2022 2:14pm

Mike Edwards

Member Since: 13 Feb 2021
Location: Northampton
Posts: 223

kevinp wrote:
I know it doesn't help now but when I replaced mine I didn't do the reset and it holds perfect.
Hope you can sort it.

Wish I hadn't tried the bedding in procedure. What sort of idiot writes a process that allows the controller to wind the adjuster off the end of the shaft?

12th Feb 2022 5:44pm

RichM63

Member Since: 10 Jul 2019
Location: Brittany
Posts: 249

2006 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

As you said it yourself,
the adjuster appears to be fitted the wrong way round.

From your picture, see how it is pushing the spring upwards, thus pushing the top of the shoe onto the drum.

Link; https://workshop-manuals.com/landrover/l32...handbrake/ L322 3.6 TDV8 Vogue. 07MY
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13th Feb 2022 9:44am

JayGee

Member Since: 27 Jul 2021
Location: London
Posts: 2665

Despite my many years of experience with fitting various brakes to various cars this is just another reason I'm going to let a LR specialist garage do mine when they need it. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

13th Feb 2022 10:31am

Mike Edwards

Member Since: 13 Feb 2021
Location: Northampton
Posts: 223

RichM63 wrote:
As you said it yourself,
the adjuster appears to be fitted the wrong way round.

From your picture, see how it is pushing the spring upwards, thus pushing the top of the shoe onto the drum.

Link; https://workshop-manuals.com/landrover/l32...handbrake/

As far as I can tell the orientation of the adjuster is for consistency rather than operation. Even turning it around the other way the spring still gets pushed up. it is the pressure from the spring on the adjuster dial that ensures that it doesn't come undone in normal operation.

13th Feb 2022 12:26pm

kevinp

Member Since: 28 Sep 2019
Location: Telford
Posts: 1113

Yep, well said Mike.

13th Feb 2022 1:05pm

Mike Edwards

Member Since: 13 Feb 2021
Location: Northampton
Posts: 223

Sadly it appears my EPB module is jammed solid and refuses to release. This is going to get expensive!

16th Feb 2022 11:16pm

kevinp

Member Since: 28 Sep 2019
Location: Telford
Posts: 1113

Have you got an IID tool? I know I've seen an instruction on there for the handbrake. See if you can possibly do a reset?

16th Feb 2022 11:49pm

Mike Edwards

Member Since: 13 Feb 2021
Location: Northampton
Posts: 223

I've tried all the options on the IID Tool. They all fail.

It appears the internals of the EPB module are jammed solid.

17th Feb 2022 11:30pm

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