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Mikeyjd



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Wales 2003 Range Rover SE Td6 Zambezi Silver
Gearbox on it's way out?

Coming to work this evening, I noticed that the car seemed to be revving highter than normal for the speed and gear I was in. It was a hot evening and I had the window open, so it is possible that it just sounded louder than I am used to. (I am getting somewhat paranoid after reading reports of gearbox failures around 100,000 miles). It was only a short journey with traffic, so I didnt really get a chance to experiment with hard accelleration or manual changing etc. but I would swear that it was revving faster. Further info: I have had the HDC warning flash briefly twice this week on starting after overnight parking. (I put that down to a low battery at the time). My mileage is 93,000.

I will go for a decent drive in the morning after work, so I am looking for a for tips on what I should be listening for or trying with the gears.

I hope I havent jinxed the gearbox by planning on going for a gearbox power flush this week Rolling Eyes No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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Post #71058 4th Jul 2011 12:54am
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Johnte



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Interesting - Sorry I can't help, but I've had just the same experience. I'm not sure if it's revving more, but definitely louder. Again, not sure if it's the engine or the box Confused difficult to explain the noise, bit like a 'whooosh' that gets louder with the revs building up. Does the FFRR have a viscous fan - could it be this in the hot weather?

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JW911



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Further info: I have had the HDC warning flash briefly twice this week on starting after overnight parking. (I put that down to a low battery at the time).


More than likely. Can't help with the gearbox issue though, sorry. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
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2003 V8 HSE (LPG) - gone!
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Post #71126 4th Jul 2011 5:09pm
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Mikeyjd



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Wales 2003 Range Rover SE Td6 Zambezi Silver

Johnte wrote:
Interesting - Sorry I can't help, but I've had just the same experience. I'm not sure if it's revving more, but definitely louder. Again, not sure if it's the engine or the box Confused difficult to explain the noise, bit like a 'whooosh' that gets louder with the revs building up. Does the FFRR have a viscous fan - could it be this in the hot weather?


Hmm, sounds similar. I guess it could be the fan spinning up faster than normal. The extra noise could make the engine sound like it's revving higher I suppose. Just been for a swiftish journey, it didn't sound too bad until I stopped for some shopping then seemed to be louder on return journey. It is possible that while stationery the temp built up and caused the fan to kick in more on way back.

I have booked it into an auto trans specialist to have it checked out on Wednesday, been meaning to have the box power flushed, so if everything is fine I will get that done whilst it's there. No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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Post #71131 4th Jul 2011 5:39pm
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Avi



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Are you sure it's not the aircon working harder ?

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Mikeyjd



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I hardly ever use air con. No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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Post #71136 4th Jul 2011 6:08pm
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Mikeyjd wrote:
I hardly ever use air con.


Shocked ...dan ,da dan dan....

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Mikeyjd



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scarey wrote:
Mikeyjd wrote:
I hardly ever use air con.


Shocked ...dan ,da dan dan....


Eh? What am I missing here Confused No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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member mr dan 1984 or something like that ,always says you must have your a/c on....some kind of dry/cold fetish me thinks..

Post #71150 4th Jul 2011 6:24pm
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robbo770



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I just replaced mine at 73,000miles, definately torque converter extra rotational speed, indicated by higher Revs first indications of gearbox failure on the 5HP type anyway.

I got a genuine land rover supplied replacement for £1400 including the Vat from my parts guy, in stock at land rover complete with the torque converter, you will also need 14 litres of the special oil, by it from lany at the same time for 20% off this, replace the oil pipes and the cooler to ensure you protect the new gearbox.


did mine all in for £2450

just driven from Aberdeen to Edinburgh to Webley stadium and back to Aberdeen in 2 days and still manage a respectable 18 mile to gallon at an unreportable average speed!!.

covered approx 1800 miles in 48 hours with my call in appointments!

just need another set of brembo discs as they are warpped again!!

hope this helps

Rob Thumbs Up Current vehicles
4.2 SC FFRR RSE 2010- facelift
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06 RFFRR 4.2 SC Vogue RSE
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Post #71158 4th Jul 2011 6:42pm
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Mikeyjd



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You're telling me what I don't want to hear Sad . I was thinking something like this. I bought the car from an indie dealer with a basic warranty. Which my guess is won't cover stuff like this. If the auto guy confirms it's on it's way out I guess I will try to argue the point with the garage. Fingers crossed for Wednesday. No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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Post #71161 4th Jul 2011 6:49pm
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robbo770



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Mikeyjd wrote:
You're telling me what I don't want to hear Sad . I was thinking something like this. I bought the car from an indie dealer with a basic warranty. Which my guess is won't cover stuff like this. If the auto guy confirms it's on it's way out I guess I will try to argue the point with the garage. Fingers crossed for Wednesday.


better to prepare you up front, try oil and filter change, but will only do a short term fix, recomment getting indie to meet you half way on parts and fit for free, car is to good to get rid for the sake of a gearbox.

rob Current vehicles
4.2 SC FFRR RSE 2010- facelift
Range Rover Evogue Dynamic Lux

Gone
Rejected RRS my14.5 nightmare
Disco B4 XXV convert
Freelander 06 SE
06 RFFRR 4.2 SC Vogue RSE
Audi A8 4.2Tdi Quattro (hated with a vengence!!)
54 FFRR 2005 model V8 4.4 Cobra Variant
53 Mitsubishi Shogun V6

Post #71164 4th Jul 2011 6:56pm
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allycraven



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Johnte wrote:
difficult to explain the noise, bit like a 'whooosh' that gets louder with the revs building up. Does the FFRR have a viscous fan - could it be this in the hot weather?


Try it stationary in P or N - if the "whoosh" builds with revs then its the viscous fan. Just had mine looked at for the same reason and thethermostat was fooked so was locking the fan on even though the engine was at normal operating temp. Should only kick in when above normal temp to prevent overheating.

Only really noticed when it was getting warmer and window/sunroof was open.... Could've spent all spring driving around with a wierd sounding car - Sounded like a 747 taking off when the foot was down!! Embarassed

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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover SE Td6 Zermatt Silver

Sounds daft and will not seem to make sense but try lubricating the Gear Control linkage Mechanism under the car on the side of the box. Just spray with 3-in-one or WD40.

One of mine some time back was doing similar (felt like torque converter slip at low speed) and this cured it completely.....

Due to corrosion of the linkage leading to missing gears or temporarily slipping out of gear.

Probably not in your case but worth a try mate as it has cleared many gearbox problems both here and on D3 site. Thumbs Up

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Mikeyjd



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Wales 2003 Range Rover SE Td6 Zambezi Silver

Thanks for the suggestion. Half a can of wd40 now dripping from the linkage - hey it's worth a try Laughing see how it goes tomorrow. No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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Previous LR- Disco 300TDi Auto

Post #71182 4th Jul 2011 8:22pm
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