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mercs600



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TD6 STARTING ISSUE

Hi - I have an occassional problem in starting the vehicle in that the starter motor 'spins' the engine over for approx 2 seconds and then just makes a 'whirring' sound as it rotates !
Not sure of where to look - I thought starter solenoid but it initially 'throws' the starter into the ring gear so I don't think this is the problem.
Just wondering if anyone else has had something similar ?
Oh yes - sorry it's a '52 plate TD6. Neutral

Post #56828 26th Mar 2011 8:05pm
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anything that sounds like its spinning and not engaging suggests that the unit is knackered, in this case the starter motor.. ... - .- -.




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May be worth getting down and dirty and checking all the earth cables. Also check the Positive is nice and tight and clean to the left of the battery where the postive to the starter can be disconnected. (Follow the positive and you will find it after about 10 inches or so. Thumbs Up

If that fails then it may be the starter needs to be replaced. 2010 Disco XS TDV6, 2009 Freelander 2 GS

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Thanks for the replies. I'm going to check the connections today - but was also thinking down the lines of a new starter motor Sad Seen them on Ebay for about £200 - is this a good price ? Neutral

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Sounds like the pinion on the starter motor is not engaging. This points to the solenoid on the starter not flicking the drive gear forward onto the flywheel. Could be loose conection, or gunged up solenoid.

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I've just noticed exactly the same issue on my 2005 ffrr and was thinking it was linked to the starter motor, girlfriend noticed the other morning that it wouldn't start up first thing and then later that day tried it myself and it was doing exactly as u described, keep updated on how you go on, mine seems to be working ok at the mo, touch wood!!

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H'mmm both TD6's... lets hope its not a post winter trend Neutral 2010 Disco XS TDV6, 2009 Freelander 2 GS

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Any update on this yet? Mine seems to have been ok since! (touch wood!)

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Yep - mines also been ok - so far ! Wink

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That's it confirmed then, FFRR's are female and prone to mood swings Big Cry

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I've done a few long journeys recently (150 miles +) so maybe the battery voltage was a bit low ? Anyway - fingers crossed and we will see Wink

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Richcl wrote:
Sounds like the pinion on the starter motor is not engaging. This points to the solenoid on the starter not flicking the drive gear forward onto the flywheel. Could be loose conection, or gunged up solenoid.


thats it, we get this on older tractors, usually happens in cold weather when the lube is thick / gunged up, usually if the motor is removed and a squirt of silicone lube sorts it - the pinion needs lube or it can stick

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me also but just the whurrring sound

Yep, i had this occasionally during a 'cold' spell - ignition back to 0 then try again and it starts. First thought were battery but was told (as a non technical, dirty diagnosis) to leave door open and see what happens to interior light - no change to brightness.
It was looked at when i was back in the UK and connections looked ok and since the warm weather no reoccurence (touch wood).

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