Hi so just joined this forum as i need to decide which RR to go for the research i have done so far shows the 4.4 v8 td is the least problematic , i am not afraid of doing basic service and get underneath the car , so the 3.6 seems to have lots of issues with the turbos ,

so the forums have guided me towards the FFRR 4.4 V8TD, around 2010 to 2011 as the sort of fall into my budget,, if the mileage is around 90,000 miles to 120,000 does the timing chains need doing and what other major items would need doing engine wise, the air suspension is hit or mis but not too bad a job to do , if the timing chains did need doing what sort of cost's would i expect ,

any other areas i need to watch out for, so to give you a clue i have wanted a range rover since i was 17 ,now 54 ,lol we worked on a mk 1 range rover 2 door with overdrive wow, and we rebuilt it (well i helped) so the time has come to take the leap so any guidance will be welcomed .

I ran a 322 4.4 V8 Diesel from new for 4/5
years - all servicing done by a main agent - she was faultless absolutely no issues apart from the drivers heated seat stopped working, quick fix soon sorted. I’m on my 16th RR and that one was one of the best in terms of reliability. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

Hi, my budget will not get me a new one, so have to go for a 10 year old one, so I will be the person who has to pick up the maintenance which I don't mind, I have not ruled out the RRS 3.6 but every YouTube I watch shows the body being lifted to fix turbo,s,
16 range rover well, that's is unreal ,

I’ve not heard of any timing chain issues. That’s the early BMW 4.4 Petrol and the later 5.0 Supercharged.

4.4 TDV8 has a few known issues, covered on various threads. Main issue to check is the oil cooler leaking. Puts oil in the cooling system......

There can be issues with smoking which need a turbo drain mod done, but cars either have the issue or they don’t.... I put my foot down and keep it cleared, spinning second turbo up from time to time. If you drive like Miss Daisy, they won’t like it.

Folk can have issues with DPF on Regular short journeys, I never have.

Other issues are not unique to the 4.4.... air susp etc, just like all the other models.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Hi what do you think of the RRS 3.6 around 2010 to 2011, as trying to get a good 4.4 are harder to get , so just want to put my mind at rest and solely focus on the 4.4 tdv8

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 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
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This is the fullfatrr forum, so we are all biased on here 🤣

That said, I skipped the 3.6 due to the turbo issues and not wanting a turbo failure to write off my engine. I understand the issues are worse on the RRS, as the engine bay is more confined and more heat build up. I have no first hand knowledge.... only what I read, but it was enough for me not to do it.

You can’t compare an RRS to a full fat. It’s a different drive. Test drive some, then decide. Get it out your system once and for all, one way or the other.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

I thick you are right, stick with the FFRR, the issues seem to be a lot less than the RRS,

Thank you guys,

Sent you a pm. 2011 4.4tdv8 Vogue
Baltic Blue

I've just started the search for another RR too - every topic seems to rave about the 4.4 TDV8 unit being very robust. Finding a good one seems to be the difficult bit.

Ive had mine for 3 yrs and only in the last 10 months have I had any probs. Ran effortlessly and faultlessly before, passed every MPt with no advisories. now on 103,000 miles (bough it with 83,000)

Faults were:
1. Cracked inlet manifold (£1600) causing DPF probs. DPF Cleaned (£200) and sensor replaced.
2. DPf over-regen fault (most likely caused by Thermostat being damaged by previous repair).
3. Oil cooler leak into coolant. Replaced oil cooler (c.£600 for parts and oil)

Was going to replace with a L405 but it's such a lovely car to drive effortlessly or with vigour (Italian style) that I am keeping it for a while longer now.

The inlet manifolds on the earliest SDV8 in the L405 are a revised version of those listed at the start of the L322's TDV8. As several engine and other enhancements were made during MY11 production (all in the BA VIN range), its most likely that the revised manifolds were introduced well before L405 production started which could have been at around the time of the other MY11 engine updates. I haven't yet established if my April MY12 has the later manifolds.

I owned a TD6 Rangie for eight years and it was a great vehicle, despite its potential pitfalls (gearbox being the main one!). I 'retired' it last year on 314,000 odd miles (have a look on the Max Miles Thread here, by Red Merle for proof) and it's been sold on to another guy who's running it like a trooper. Traded up to a 4.4 TDV8 Westie MY2012, have had it a year now and have done some preventative maintenance and sorted the few problems it came with.
The main problems are:
Manifold inlet hoses: The JLR ones are pretty rubbish and end up splitting. Got the ones on mine replaced with silicone hoses (you can either buy the JLR upgrade hoses at 'JLR' prices or get a length of silicone hose off fleabay for a fraction of the price and cut the hoses to length, which is what I did).
Oil cooler leak: there are two areas which leak, the small (turbo?) pipe at the back of the cooler and also the gaskets within the cooler. My indy noticed the oil leak on my Westie and said I'd need a new oil cooler, however I pointed out that it's only the two gaskets in the cooler that would fail. Spent £50 tops buying the gaskets and some 'O' rings, got him to fit them and no more oil leak.
Heated / Cooled Seat Heater motor(s): common problem on older Fatties now (that are fitted with the peltier type heated / cooled units) as either the ducting becomes brittle and breaks, also (if you're unlucky) the seat base ducting gets squashed. Just about to sort my heated seat issue (driver's side only as passenger seat is perfect) ready for the cold weather ahead.

My personal opinion is this:
The 4.4 TDV8 is absolutely awesome compared to the TD6 I had, I didn't go for the 3.6 TDV8 due to the turbo fears and I hunted around to find a 4.4 TDV8 with everything I wanted in my budget. There's plenty of information on this FFRR Site to not only help you, but answer queries and even lend a hand if able to.

I can't praise this site enough , they have made all my years of Rangie ownership a joy , even when it comes to getting the wallet out .

I was thinking about getting a 4.4 TDV8 L322 but ended up getting a very cheap 3.6 out of an auction instead, with the intention of running that for a couple of years and going straight for an L405 SDV8, by then the new model will be out and the earlier 405s will have dropped a little more, ideally I’d like to go for a Euro 6 one when I do but I think I’m right in saying that Land Rover left it very late to become compliant, think it was 65 reg and up!.

if you search for member Baltic Blue's known fault log for the 4.4TDV8 you will find the usual items which are quite predictable as compared to the 3.6.

Although many many 3.6's run to high miles, they can lunch their turbos, ingesting parts into the combustion chamber which is pretty much goodnight engine.

The 4.4TDV8 is a oil leaky engine and not without it's issues but don't seem to carry the same Russian roulette factor. That, together with the fact that it's a spectacular driving experience - and (unless you are talking about a 2009+ 3.6) you get the last updates to the L322 with all the bells and whistles if you go for a higher model like an Se or AB. Eg. Digital dash, adaptive suspension etc.

Best advice is to try to find one with the turbo drain mod done. Or haggle hard if it's not done. Knowledge is power, so read up right here on the forum you'll literally find everything there is to know about Range Rovers.

One warning though - they're addictive bloody things.

 Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway