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Haylands



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Good luck, got fingers crossed.... Thumbs Up Pete

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dhallworth



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I've flashed the gearbox ECU using the IID tool this afternoon and the car is now coming out of park which is a big step forward.

Unfortunately, when clearing the fault codes I'm still getting the same plethora of fault codes that I was before.

Quote:
VIN: -----------------
L322 - Range Rover 2007
Vehicle scanned on 21-07-2021 13:50
Using IIDTool BT V3.0 B2742

ATCM-Terrain Response

U0401-94 (2E) Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 21-07-2021 13:49:22 at 215202 km )
U0402-94 (2E) Invalid data received from transmission control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 21-07-2021 13:49:22 at 215202 km )
U0416-94 (2F) Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 21-07-2021 13:49:21 at 215202 km )
U0403-94 (2E) Invalid data received from transfer case control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 21-07-2021 13:49:22 at 215202 km )
U0421-94 (2F) Invalid data received from ride level control module - Component failure - unexpected operation
( on 21-07-2021 13:49:21 at 215202 km )

TCCM-Transfer Case

P0915-00 (2F) Gearshift position - circuit range/performance
( on 21-07-2021 13:49:24 at 215202 km )

TMC-Traffic Message

B1A56-18 (2F) Antenna circuit - General electrical failure - circuit current below threshold


It's strange that I'm getting a gearshift position fault on the transfer case ECU but not on the transmission ECU.

I think it's been an electrical fault on the car that's caused the gearbox to go into limp mode and stick in one gear, then as I've put it into reverse the grinding and banging noise has been from the gearbox being in 2 gears at the same time.

Back to the drawing board then... Sad

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
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oooooops, maybe time to rebuild your original one, or do you think you can sort this one...? Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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dhallworth



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I think I’ve got 2 problems.

The something put the gearbox into limp mode which seems to put it in 2nd gear. When I selected reverse it started grinding.

I’ve been doing some digging this evening with the IID tool.

This is the High/Low Voltage Sensor on our 4.4 TDV8:







The voltage on the 4.4 maintains a steady low voltage when in low range and a steady high voltage in high range with the occasional stutter when switching.

This is the High/Low Voltage Sensor on the SC:



That graph is with the ignition switched on and not touching the High/Low switch.

I’ve tried unplugging the 3 connectors from the transfer box one at a time and that makes no difference at all to the reading. I’ve also tried a new (used) transfer box ECU. So, in a nutshell I need to find where the IID tool gets it’s readings from.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #601408 21st Jul 2021 6:12pm
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dhallworth



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Last night I had the car running and filled the gearbox with gear oil. The dashboard was still lit up like a Christmas tree but the air suspension fault has cleared and the car lifted up nice and quickly.

Once the oil level in the box was set as best as I could I started to have a look a bit closer with the IID tool.

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The car didn't know if it was in High Range or Low Range.

I tried to calibrate the transfer box and nothing happened when using the IID tool.

I then removed the transfer motor from the transfer box and when putting 12v to the motor it spun in both directions without any problems.

I then refitted the transfer box motor to the transfer box and applied 12v to the pins on the motor and got nothing but a splash. I then reversed the polarity and the motor jumped a touch but nothing much at all. It's drawing some amount of current though as the leads I was using to give the motor power got hot very quickly.

I've surmised that the transfer box is stuck between High and Low range and this is likely why the voltage is oscillating when looking with the IID tool.

I don't think I've changed the gearbox without cause though as the fluid in my original box went from brand new to jet black and stinky in 2.5k miles which I wouldn't have thought to be normal so I'm quite happy with that. I just wish I'd had a closer look at the transfer box before refitting it all as it looks a sod to get to the top bolts now it's back in the car!

Anyway, I've ordered another transfer box which should arrive on Monday. I was hoping to see it tomorrow but so far everything is estimating Monday delivery Sad At least I can have a lazy weekend!

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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When I drained the oil upon getting the car I got less then 1 litre from the gearbox.

I them removed the valve block and replaced all of the solenoids, the bridge seal and the 4 rubber cylindrical seals as well and when refilling it took 8.5 litres of fluid so there can't have been much left in the box.

I was expecting the oil coming out to be a bit brown but this was black and it smelt burnt which is what leads me to believe something was wrong in the gearbox too.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

Post #601542 22nd Jul 2021 10:17pm
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

I think I’ve done the torque converter differences thread to death so I’ve posted a detailed post going into what I found when stripping down the transfer box.

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post601817.html#601817

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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