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Unfortunately it is not a nice 6 cylinder from BMW. It’s a home grown JLR Ingenium 6 that has be given the hybrid treatment. Regardless of how good this unit may or may not prove to be in time, I would not personally choose to beta test it for JLR in a brand new platform. It’s got hard shoulder of the motorway waiting for a flatbed written all over it.

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It depletes quite quickly in hybrid mode, as far as I understand from people who have one.

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The only consequence the batteries have is a lover riding height, and not being able to have a full size spare

A slightly different take on the need for charging infrastructure at home for the PHEV.

My car sits still overnight and a PHEV will, in fact, be able to charge overnight from a three pin socket. Having recently had quotes for a charger, I’ve decided that the cost/benefit doesn’t stack up so I’ll just use the three pin socket. I’ll then review that when prices come down once grants end and volumes increase.

We’ve had a home charger for over a year - it was “free” with a Merc we had

It’s basically a 7kw 32a 1ph supply direct from ours mains incomer

It charges quicker, and is a non-descript box on the garage wall, handy to get home and just plug the car in 😂 it’s going to be the new normal in 5 years

In this Harry's Garage video, between 10.30 and 13.30 minutes, he talks about mpg's he's been getting on his L405 PHEV (approx 67 / 68 average) and the fact that he's also installed a small wind turbine which provides enough energy to power the car all year!!

A thought if like me you live somewhere that's often windy. Where I live is at the top of a valley, so I think I might look into this.

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Yep, when it’s free, the cost/ benefit works . My bet is that the cost of these things will plummet in years to come.

Chargers will run at 30amps which is roughly 2.5 times the output of a normal socket, so using a socket will take 2.5 times longer.

I have had a P400e for nearly 4 years and 50k miles.
It is my 15th Range Rover, so when I say it is the best car I have ever had, it is in that context.
I want the P510e but because of the delay I am initially having a P530, so will be able to give a fair comparison between the two.
The PHEV comes with lots of compromises eg no LWB, no 23" wheels, no full size spare etc. But double the electric range, fast charge, much more power/torque, means this will be an amazing car.

The P440e is available in LWB if that makes any difference Badger - Rest as you say is true though.

Yeh, but not with 7 seats!
They have made it very complicated!

Definitely not straightforward - I want clear glass, but I can't remove it from the 5 seat LWB!!!

Very annoying.

I noticed that the P400e shows an advanced off road capability pack for £4k - The D350 and P510 include these options as standard. This makes the price between the P400 and the P510 even closer (assuming you want these options)

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I can't see this Kev - Is this also applicable to the LWB variant, or just the standard car?

If so, what section is it under?

This was a SWB p400e just cycling through the options hitting next next next

Can't see it offered as an option on the LWB Autobiography variant, but also can't see it listed under standard spec.... Maybe it's a few different standard Autobiography features clubbed together as a pack?

So after a bit more research it looks like i was right - The P400 and P400e don't come as standard with

Electionic Active Differential with Torque Vectoring by Braking, Electronic Air Suspension
with Dynamic Response and configurable programs

These are a £4000 option, which are standard on the P510, D350 and V8

Am I correct in thinking the P510 uses the P400 engine as its straight six ?